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      11-07-2007, 05:09 AM   #1
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No Auto Daylight saving time.

I was going nuts the other day with appointments, I though my car, esp with the navi I-drive would automatically change the time with daylight savings.

It does not, oh well... guess I am lazy,, you think it would..
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      11-07-2007, 06:00 AM   #2
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oh dear god no!!!! the horror of it!!!

you americans may have to change a setting by yourselves, lol!
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oh dear god no!!!! the horror of it!!!

you americans may have to change a setting by yourselves, lol!

I asked my wife what she thought about the idea of carrying me to my car each morning. Her answer shall go unrecorded.
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With all the technology today and the miniscule amount of memory this would require it's really fairly ridiculous they can't program this into the car's computer. I have an automatic timed light switch on my front porch light that adjusts automatically for Daylight Savings Time. I think I-Drive especially ought to have this.
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My acura updated with DST and it also updated when driving through time zones. Does idrive update when driving through different time zones?
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      11-07-2007, 08:19 AM   #7
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Mine worked for daylight savings time ..... oh wait, Arizona doesn't change!
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I have a clock radio that is automatically set for the greenwich mean time whenever I turn it on or lose power. However, I still have to hit a switch for DST. Why is that?
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Well not all BMW's have gps and not all time zones use daylight savings.
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      11-07-2007, 09:29 AM   #10
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Additionally, daylight savings isn't necessarilly on the same day each year. It was a different day this november than last year. Windows had to issue an emergency patch for XP to fix the dates. Imagine how annoying it'd be if our cars had to go in for service every few years for new firmware with the proper daylight savings dates in 'em.
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Additionally, daylight savings isn't necessarilly on the same day each year. It was a different day this november than last year. Windows had to issue an emergency patch for XP to fix the dates. Imagine how annoying it'd be if our cars had to go in for service every few years for new firmware with the proper daylight savings dates in 'em.
You mean Microsoft, not Windows, but they did that almost a year ago (the patch).

The day for the changeover to winter time or summer time was never the same (but it is always on the Xth Sunday at 02.00 local time in March for example).

Going forward, the day (not date) will be the same for start and stop of summer time in the U.S., starting three weeks earlier than it used to and ending one week later.
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I was going nuts the other day with appointments, I though my car, esp with the navi I-drive would automatically change the time with daylight savings.

It does not, oh well... guess I am lazy,, you think it would..
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True, not all BMWs have GPS however, the ones that do, have no reason why they shouldn't update automatically. My damn cellphone does it, why can't my 50+k car?? WTF?
Both of you..... Sell your cars right away, complain a bit more and sue BMW!
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I was going nuts the other day with appointments, I though my car, esp with the navi I-drive would automatically change the time with daylight savings.

It does not, oh well... guess I am lazy,, you think it would..
you mean, you didn't get the IQ package? You should have gotten it so the idrive has a brain of it's own and knows when North America decides to move the time to change DST 1 ahead and 1 week later.
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My acura updated with DST and it also updated when driving through time zones. Does idrive update when driving through different time zones?
Yeah, that's a great feature in the Acura Nav. Oh, except when the U.S. changes the time zone DST rules and now the car changes the time a week early. :sad0147:

So you'd have to spend a couple hundred to update the Nav DVD which may or may not have the new time zone rules.

Do you want to set the time manually or do you want the car to set it automatically and incorrectly? Even the automatic feature can have issues.
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Yeah, that's a great feature in the Acura Nav. Oh, except when the U.S. changes the time zone DST rules and now the car changes the time a week early. :sad0147:

So you'd have to spend a couple hundred to update the Nav DVD which may or may not have the new time zone rules.

Do you want to set the time manually or do you want the car to set it automatically and incorrectly? Even the automatic feature can have issues.
Surprisingly, my TSX never had this issue. I guess it was because the time is controlled by satellites and maybe those times are always accurate??? I don't know. However, I did find a way that if the time was not correct, there is always a way to change the time manually.
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While the DST change is not that big of a deal (it takes me quite literally 5 seconds to change), having the clock auto-update for changes in time zones would be a very nice feature to have. It's a shame iDrive doesn't do it. Perhaps BMW will include this feature in a future firmware update?
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I would think if the car has a time and a date that it would automatically adjust for DST. Otherwise, if the car does not have a date, then it would be acceptable for no automatic DST adjustment.
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We are at least lucky that we can change the hour and have the clock and the radio show the same.
Some cars the clock and the radio must each be set for Daylight Saving Time.
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True, not all BMWs have GPS however, the ones that do, have no reason why they shouldn't update automatically. My damn cellphone does it, why can't my 50+k car?? WTF?
Your cellphone gets the local time that is provided by the cell provider and doesn't have to do anything internally. GPS does NOT provide LOCAL time (only UTC) so (as others have said) it would have to do a LOT more internally.

It would be possible for cars with BMW Assist (w or w/o iDrive) to get the local time from their cell provider but that may be complicated in a car that is sold all over the world. (Many cell phones won't work outside NA.)
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The day for the changeover to winter time or summer time was never the same (but it is always on the Xth Sunday at 02.00 local time in March for example).
...until Congress changes the law again and makes everyone get another firmware update to their cars, which was my original point... that DST is arbitrary and inconsistent and not necessarilly trivial to code around.

If the GPS system would (based on your location) tell you what timezone you're in and what the local time is, that'd be pretty slick though. And they'd only have to update ~24 satellite firmwares instead of a tens of million cars.

That, or keep it like it is now and let everyone just spend 10 seconds adjusting their clock.

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my car updated itself?












oh wait, it was at the dealer getting serviced over the weekend, those crazy BMW techs must have updated my clocks for me!

Now that I think about it, the clock in my ridiculously dirty X3 loaner didnt update itself either. Whats the big deal, just turn it back an hour!
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