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      02-02-2014, 10:18 AM   #1
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new wheel rubs my front suspession?

i just got my GF06's yesterday and had some trouble. my ONE front rim rubs against my suspession. what can i do? i run 19x9.5s all around. maybe just a 5mm spacers? since its only one maybe my suspicion is bent? and if it was will a spacer work because i don't feel like spending money on suspicion when i plan on lowering my car in the spring.
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Which component is being rubbed? It certainly sounds like something may be amiss if only once side rubs. You need to carefully compare the geometry, shape, and mounting position of the suspect components with their opposite sides, as well as look for potential signs of an accident or damage.

Also compare the settled ride height between each side, such as from the ground to the apex of the fender wheel opening.
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Maybe these wheels just don't fit your car, if your thinking you need spacers then you are forcing an application that was not meant for your car.

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Maybe these wheels just don't fit your car, if your thinking you need spacers then you are forcing an application that was not meant for your car.

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They do because it's only my one front. The other one works just fine
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Which component is being rubbed? It certainly sounds like something may be amiss if only once side rubs. You need to carefully compare the geometry, shape, and mounting position of the suspect components with their opposite sides, as well as look for potential signs of an accident or damage.

Also compare the settled ride height between each side, such as from the ground to the apex of the fender wheel opening.
It rubs the metal bar right about the brakes
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It rubs the metal bar right about the brakes
"The metal bar about the brakes..." Hmm, I'm still not sure what you are referring to.

With the brakes to the rear of the front suspension, the only "bar about" the brakes is the lower control arm (item 14 in the parts diagram), which is nigh impossible for a wheel to contact, unless severely deformed rearwards, which would be very noticeable and likely undriveable:



But there is a tension rod in front of the suspension that might contact a wheel if it's bent, item 9 below:



The tension rod is a common component that can get damaged or bent under duress, such as hitting a nasty bump at speed. It's bushings and/or ball joint could also wear or get damaged resulting in more play that can cause wheel contact.
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you said you have a square 19x9.5 setup but are they all the same offset?
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you said you have a square 19x9.5 setup but are they all the same offset?
30 and 33..i switched them all out to see if i had them mixed up but no luck
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not my car but that rod...believe its the strut
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30 and 33..i switched them all out to see if i had them mixed up but no luck
if you get spacers for the front, you then may run into the possibility of rubbing against the fender. may work but i've never run 9.5 in the front before.
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30 and 33..i switched them all out to see if i had them mixed up but no luck
if you get spacers for the front, you then may run into the possibility of rubbing against the fender. may work but i've never run 9.5 in the front before.
I was thinking only 5mm
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believe its the strut
Wow, I've only encountered strut contact issues with current model F-150 4x4's using strut spacers for lift combined with certain 10"+ wide rims and certain offsets...

You may want to get your camber checked, comparing the left and right sides. Certainly your rim offsets are borderline and any suspension geometry issues can result in your predicament...

And lowering your vehicle will definitely exacerbate the problem.
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believe its the strut
Wow, I've only encountered strut contact issues with current model F-150 4x4's using strut spacers for lift combined with certain 10"+ wide rims and certain offsets...

You may want to get your camber checked, comparing the left and right sides. Certainly your rim offsets are borderline and any suspension geometry issues can result in your issue...

And lowering your vehicle will definitely exacerbate the problem.
Would a spacer be an easy fix ?
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Take in for an alignment and make sure the check all three aspects, castor, camber & toe.

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Would a spacer be an easy fix ?
Yes, but as Dan mentions, it could cause fender lip issues with your 19x9.5 rims, depending on tire profile. The manufacturer certainly used more positive offset to push their 9.5" wide rim inboard; I've got 19x8.5's up front and rim lip is about flush with the fender opening.

Again, lowering with spacers may cause fender lip issues if you don't experience them at stock ride height.
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OP,

Everyone is offering you the best solutions. Go get your alignment checked, check for bent suspension components, double check your wheel size and offset.
You just keep referencing spacers...... That it not the best solution but if you want to coverup potential issues with the cheap way out? Go for it
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Everyone is offering you the best solutions. Go get your alignment checked, check for bent suspension components, double check your wheel size and offset.
You just keep referencing spacers...... That it not the best solution but if you want to coverup potential issues with the cheap way out? Go for it
The only reason is because I don't want to put money in my suspension because I'm getting coils in a few months
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The only reason is because I don't want to put money in my suspension because I'm getting coils in a few months
I'm confused: you don't' want to put money into resolving the wheel contact issues because you want to first buy and install coils, which I will assume also wil lower the car and thus make this contact issue even worse?

Yes, you will definitely have to realign the car after coil installation, but trying to save money on duplicate work (e.g. alignment) in this potentially disastrous issue by performing modifications first that will amplify the problem is not the most sound and recommended method, and could result in spending much more money than necessary over first resolving the contact issue.

If you discover any bent suspension components after your coil install and alignment, you still will need to have it realigned after replacing the damaged components, so the net result is the same: money spent on multiple alignment jobs. As the saying goes, "You can pay me now, or you can pay me later."

But hey, it's your car and I've provided all the assist I can.

Good luck!
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The only reason is because I don't want to put money in my suspension because I'm getting coils in a few months
I'm confused: you don't' want to put money into resolving the wheel contact issues because you want to first buy and install coils, which I will assume also wil lower the car and thus make this contact issue even worse?

Yes, you will definitely have to realign the car after coil installation, but trying to save money on duplicate work (e.g. alignment) in this potentially disastrous issue by performing modifications first that will amplify the problem is not the most sound and recommended method, and could result in spending much more money than necessary over first resolving the contact issue.

If you discover any bent suspension components after your coil install and alignment, you still will need to have it realigned after replacing the damaged components, so the net result is the same: money spent on multiple alignment jobs. As the saying goes, "You can pay me now, or you can pay me later."

But hey, it's your car and I've provided all the assist I can.

Good luck!
Yeah I a appreciate it . I'm going to make an appointment for them to check it out
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30 and 33..i switched them all out to see if i had them mixed up but no luck
Do you have the et30 or 33 up front? Your also going to need spacers to clear the coilovers.
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30 and 33..i switched them all out to see if i had them mixed up but no luck
Do you have the et30 or 33 up front? Your also going to need spacers to clear the coilovers.
I think I had the 30 in front. But I took them off and going to a Indy.
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Get an alignment and go from there first.
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