[cmgbk75]

Originally Posted by Game

Damn, is your dealer owned by a large dealer group?

Are your BMWFS numbers the same in the Chi?

PS I hope you got a discount on your car with Patrick.

[somer]

Originally Posted by dantm3

Just ran numbers through a lease calculator the way I would build mine.. no discounts and no money down and the payment is way over what I would pay for a 66k car…. Ouch

Yea world is different these days that's for sure, leased my F10 M5 in 2015 for 1180/month, nothing down, 14k off msrp of 118k.

[Rx-7ames]

Originally Posted by SM2

What is BMW Acquisition Cost?
One-Pay Lease Money Factor Reduction?

The acquisition fee is 925 and I don't believe there is a One-Pay Lease any more.

[SM2]

Originally Posted by Rx-7ames

The acquisition fee is 925 and I don't believe there is a One-Pay Lease any more.

O really? Shoot thanks for the update.

[Rx-7ames]

Originally Posted by KevinC

MSRP for a CA? That's obscene! Is the profit still the same as I last heard - 3% on the front end at MSRP, with another 3% holdback, for a total of 6%? If so that's a fat 5-figure profit for your employer, so that the owner can make a couple of yacht payments. Absurd way to treat employees.

Profit on a 70k BMW is about 3500 (5%). I'm not sure where 5 figures comes from.

The issue is that BMW does not include the M2 in their employee discount program. Obviously it's manager's discretion, but it is pretty common for client advisors to pay MSRP for hard to get cars excluded from the employee purchase program.

[Rx-7ames]

Originally Posted by Game

Damn, is your dealer owned by a large dealer group?

Yes, but our corporation has nothing to do with our pricing. That is local management.

[JEM3]

Originally Posted by Rx-7ames

I think these are just the times we live in until BMW needs help selling cars again. Heck, I'm paying MSRP and I'm a client advisor. I still think it's a better buy than an M240 with a huge discount (which I could get as a BMW employee). But I'm getting the car I want. What's my other option? Pay almost MSRP for an F87? That doesn't make sense to me.

What’s up with F87 prices now anyway? I’m surprised they still haven’t dipped much. I’m seeing a lot of used with 15k-20k miles still close to 60k…

[Rx-7ames]

Originally Posted by JEM3

What’s up with F87 prices now anyway? I’m surprised they still haven’t dipped much. I’m seeing a lot of used with 15k-20k miles still close to 60k…

Because the F87 is epic in ways different than the G87. Why are 1M prices so high? Same reason I guess.

[AndrejMi]

Chicago suburbs on a HEA car @ MSRP was 1050s on 36m lease with 10k down take out 2k worth of options and its 950s. something like that, I ordered a car and expect to be in the 900s-980s with taxes etc on 67k MSRP.

[CodeSlinger]

Originally Posted by JEM3

What’s up with F87 prices now anyway? I’m surprised they still haven’t dipped much. I’m seeing a lot of used with 15k-20k miles still close to 60k…

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/price-trends/BMW-M2-d2396

Prices for 2021 M2's are the lowest they've been since May of 2021 but still above where they started. Of course adjusting for inflation from 2020 would be a bit of a different story.

[Humdizzle]

Originally Posted by JEM3

What’s up with F87 prices now anyway? I’m surprised they still haven’t dipped much. I’m seeing a lot of used with 15k-20k miles still close to 60k…

I think there are two main factors:

1) the M2CS was seen as the second coming of jesus by most reviewers while the M3/M4 were seen as duds.

2) the looks of the G-series cars are very polarizing. and generally seen as more refined and less edgy do drive. Its not uncommon to hear that the G80 M3 is basically an M5 now. And that the F87 was closest to what the E36/E46 was like to drive.

[Game]

Originally Posted by Rx-7ames

Yes, but our corporation has nothing to do with our pricing. That is local management.

That's some BS. They should give you a discount.