[Kramers oddly shaped hair]

I love the steering wheel of the '25, so I'm half tempted to just order new, but I love/hate the amount of packages/customization involved making it more likely that I'll have to order and wait instead of finding one at a dealer. The frugal in me loves a good deal and sees '24 xDrives hitting low $50k marks, so outside of the steering wheel upgrade, was there any major changes to the '25 MY? I basically want a fully loaded ride, which new would put me over $60k.

[AdonisP91]

Originally Posted by Kramers oddly shaped hair

I love the steering wheel of the '25, so I'm half tempted to just order new, but I love/hate the amount of packages/customization involved making it more likely that I'll have to order and wait instead of finding one at a dealer. The frugal in me loves a good deal and sees '24 xDrives hitting low $50k marks, so outside of the steering wheel upgrade, was there any major changes to the '25 MY? I basically want a fully loaded ride, which new would put me over $60k.

Check this video out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6t3O73-Swy4

He goes over all the small changes. In addition to the steering wheel, 2025 models have idrive 8.5. That might be nice for some features, but it also means you can’t code with BimmerCode anymore. It is severely locked down compared to idrive 8 in the 2024 and prior models.

[Kramers oddly shaped hair]

Originally Posted by AdonisP91

Check this video out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6t3O73-Swy4

He goes over all the small changes. In addition to the steering wheel, 2025 models have idrive 8.5. That might be nice for some features, but it also means you can’t code with BimmerCode anymore. It is severely locked down compared to idrive 8 in the 2024 and prior models.

Interesting. Any chance coding with BC will progress to allow for more functionality or is there no shot?

[AdonisP91]

Originally Posted by Kramers oddly shaped hair

Interesting. Any chance coding with BC will progress to allow for more functionality or is there no shot?

I can’t say I know much on that front, but reading through some other threads on this forums, my take away was the general consensus is it is very unlikely there will be progress. The new system requires authentication with BMW’s servers to get approval for changes to be made. Custom coding changes can’t be made offline anymore. It’s no longer simply a question of finding an exploit in the vehicles firmware, but requires a far more advanced hack on BMW’s backend.

[Kramers oddly shaped hair]

Originally Posted by AdonisP91

I can’t say I know much on that front, but reading through some other threads on this forums, my take away was the general consensus is it is very unlikely there will be progress. The new system requires authentication with BMW’s servers to get approval for changes to be made. Custom coding changes can’t be made offline anymore. It’s no longer simply a question of finding an exploit in the vehicles firmware, but requires a far more advanced hack on BMW’s backend.

That sucks, but I see there are still some options coded to the DME that you can adjust, like seatbelt chime, etc. Not ideal, but hopefully they get something going. Otherwise BC is gonna be hard pressed to keep relevant in the market 10+ years on.

[AdonisP91]

Originally Posted by Kramers oddly shaped hair

That sucks, but I see there are still some options coded to the DME that you can adjust, like seatbelt chime, etc. Not ideal, but hopefully they get something going. Otherwise BC is gonna be hard pressed to keep relevant in the market 10+ years on.

Really? I was under the impression the only module left that can be coded is the RAM module and that only left us the option to turn ASD on or off. But ya I agree BimmerCode and other similar apps are going to struggle.

And even worse for us as consumers if something breaks and we want to replace the part, we have to go in to the dealer to get it coded to the vehicle, adding unnecessary costs.

[Kramers oddly shaped hair]

Originally Posted by AdonisP91

Really? I was under the impression the only module left that can be coded is the RAM module and that only left us the option to turn ASD on or off. But ya I agree BimmerCode and other similar apps are going to struggle.

And even worse for us as consumers if something breaks and we want to replace the part, we have to go in to the dealer to get it coded to the vehicle, adding unnecessary costs.

I found this post in a search
https://g20.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=2153295

[IanH]

I posted all the functions that can be coded on 2025 M240, its still a good amount but certain things are locked off. IMO still worth it to have bimmercode in the 2025 model.

https://g87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...&postcount=129

2025 has far better exterior look (on most colors) without the black lower panel paint.

Steering wheel is much better looking, but possible to retrofit the new wheel to older car.

I drive 8.5 is significantly faster hardware and better overall software than 8

Interior dash is "cleaner" with the new design, but that's subjective.

Carbon factory trim available.

Leather console knee pads pretty minor (but I think that's different? ) Annoyingly for me these pads are the same color in every car, and don't match my cognac interior. But like I said you cant really notice them without looking for it.

[J-RO]

Originally Posted by AdonisP91

Really? I was under the impression the only module left that can be coded is the RAM module and that only left us the option to turn ASD on or off. But ya I agree BimmerCode and other similar apps are going to struggle.

And even worse for us as consumers if something breaks and we want to replace the part, we have to go in to the dealer to get it coded to the vehicle, adding unnecessary costs.

But more money for the dealers!

[AdonisP91]

Originally Posted by J-RO

But more money for the dealers!

And the insurance companies… All prices must rise!

[Kramers oddly shaped hair]

Here's hoping this is a small hiccup then. Probably gonna pull the trigger on a '25 purely for the added aesthetics.

[AdonisP91]

Originally Posted by Kramers oddly shaped hair

Here's hoping this is a small hiccup then. Probably gonna pull the trigger on a '25 purely for the added aesthetics.

That’s what I ended up doing too. There was a used one I test drove but they wanted 60,000$ Canadian for it when a brand new 2025 was 72,000$. I figured might as well get a customized 2025. The wait has been killing me though

[Kramers oddly shaped hair]

Originally Posted by AdonisP91

That’s what I ended up doing too. There was a used one I test drove but they wanted 60,000$ Canadian for it when a brand new 2025 was 72,000$. I figured might as well get a customized 2025. The wait has been killing me though

When did you order? Can't imagine it would take too long. The added benefit of a warranty is also very compelling. Haven't had a warranty on my car in so long. Gonna be real great not having to drop $500+ every other month on something besides mods.

[AdonisP91]

Originally Posted by Kramers oddly shaped hair

When did you order? Can't imagine it would take too long. The added benefit of a warranty is also very compelling. Haven't had a warranty on my car in so long. Gonna be real great not having to drop $500+ every other month on something besides mods.

End of November, 28th I believe. It’ll probably another 5-6 weeks before I take delivery.

[Mikehenry]

Pretty sure you get the gen 3 B58 (which has massive changes)(direct and port fuel injection now) similar to the 2025 M340i.

[inevitab1e]

Originally Posted by Mikehenry

Pretty sure you get the gen 3 B58 (which has massive changes)(direct and port fuel injection now) similar to the 2025 M340i.

It's still the same Gen 2 B58.

[skyzthelimit]

i prefer the 24 interior and ambient lighting, but this is subjective (the only feature i like better on the 25 is the steering wheel).
However, unless you are getting a black color, i prefer the exterior of 25 much more without the lower black panel (if you are getting it in black then 24 is my choice mainly for the interior)

[Kramers oddly shaped hair]

Originally Posted by skyzthelimit

i prefer the 24 interior and ambient lighting, but this is subjective (the only feature i like better on the 25 is the steering wheel).
However, unless you are getting a black color, i prefer the exterior of 25 much more without the lower black panel (if you are getting it in black then 24 is my choice mainly for the interior)

Ambient interior lighting appears to be the same though from the '24?

[Ricochet48]

Biggest changes as noted:

• iDrive 8.5 (note 8.0 cannot be updated as it's hardware related)
• Flat bottomed wheel (although you can get nice aftermarket ones)
• Color matched sie and rear panels (looks much better on some colors)
• Trim matches the newest BMW iteration (I think it looks slightly better)

Interested if anything will change in 2026. I'm definitely getting a 2023+ as I prefer iDrive 8, but how much extra is the 2025 worth is the $50K question haha.

[IanH]

From what I have heard iDrive 8 is noticeably slower than 8.5.

I would be interested if there was a youtube video that compared the two, I havent seen one.

The slower performance, if significant, will only get more apparent over time as even better infotainment is released and demands on the system by android auto and carplay increase.

I only present this as something to consider when actively choosing the slower hardware. Some may not have a problem with this.

[Kramers oddly shaped hair]

Originally Posted by Ricochet48

Biggest changes as noted:

• iDrive 8.5 (note 8.0 cannot be updated as it's hardware related)
• Flat bottomed wheel (although you can get nice aftermarket ones)
• Color matched sie and rear panels (looks much better on some colors)
• Trim matches the newest BMW iteration (I think it looks slightly better)

Interested if anything will change in 2026. I'm definitely getting a 2023+ as I prefer iDrive 8, but how much extra is the 2025 worth is the $50K question haha.

My justification is the obvious... am I going to wish I had these extra features? Am I going to pay for an extended warranty on a used model? Am I going to pay close to $1k for the steering wheel retrofit? Is 8.5 worth it? Among several other potential questions that'll run through your head. Your average cost for a 2023+ is probably $48.5k-$55k roughly depending on miles, features, etc. I'd rather go another $10k in and get the wheel, the 8.5 iD, the flares with the ZTK, and most importantly, the new car warranty. I can make $10k in a month and a half if I put the overtime in. I'm not too concerned about the hit. I just really want to see if there's any major changes to the '26 model first, since if I order now, I won't get my '25 till June according to the dealer.

[Baldilocks73]

Originally Posted by Kramers oddly shaped hair

Ambient interior lighting appears to be the same though from the '24?

No, that has changed a bit too.

24 vs 25