[Kramers oddly shaped hair]

I love the steering wheel of the '25, so I'm half tempted to just order new, but I love/hate the amount of packages/customization involved making it more likely that I'll have to order and wait instead of finding one at a dealer. The frugal in me loves a good deal and sees '24 xDrives hitting low $50k marks, so outside of the steering wheel upgrade, was there any major changes to the '25 MY? I basically want a fully loaded ride, which new would put me over $60k.

[AdonisP91]

Originally Posted by Kramers oddly shaped hair

I love the steering wheel of the '25, so I'm half tempted to just order new, but I love/hate the amount of packages/customization involved making it more likely that I'll have to order and wait instead of finding one at a dealer. The frugal in me loves a good deal and sees '24 xDrives hitting low $50k marks, so outside of the steering wheel upgrade, was there any major changes to the '25 MY? I basically want a fully loaded ride, which new would put me over $60k.

Check this video out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6t3O73-Swy4

He goes over all the small changes. In addition to the steering wheel, 2025 models have idrive 8.5. That might be nice for some features, but it also means you can’t code with BimmerCode anymore. It is severely locked down compared to idrive 8 in the 2024 and prior models.

[Kramers oddly shaped hair]

Originally Posted by AdonisP91

Check this video out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6t3O73-Swy4

He goes over all the small changes. In addition to the steering wheel, 2025 models have idrive 8.5. That might be nice for some features, but it also means you can’t code with BimmerCode anymore. It is severely locked down compared to idrive 8 in the 2024 and prior models.

Interesting. Any chance coding with BC will progress to allow for more functionality or is there no shot?

[AdonisP91]

Originally Posted by Kramers oddly shaped hair

Interesting. Any chance coding with BC will progress to allow for more functionality or is there no shot?

I can’t say I know much on that front, but reading through some other threads on this forums, my take away was the general consensus is it is very unlikely there will be progress. The new system requires authentication with BMW’s servers to get approval for changes to be made. Custom coding changes can’t be made offline anymore. It’s no longer simply a question of finding an exploit in the vehicles firmware, but requires a far more advanced hack on BMW’s backend.

[Kramers oddly shaped hair]

Originally Posted by AdonisP91

I can’t say I know much on that front, but reading through some other threads on this forums, my take away was the general consensus is it is very unlikely there will be progress. The new system requires authentication with BMW’s servers to get approval for changes to be made. Custom coding changes can’t be made offline anymore. It’s no longer simply a question of finding an exploit in the vehicles firmware, but requires a far more advanced hack on BMW’s backend.

That sucks, but I see there are still some options coded to the DME that you can adjust, like seatbelt chime, etc. Not ideal, but hopefully they get something going. Otherwise BC is gonna be hard pressed to keep relevant in the market 10+ years on.

[AdonisP91]

Originally Posted by Kramers oddly shaped hair

That sucks, but I see there are still some options coded to the DME that you can adjust, like seatbelt chime, etc. Not ideal, but hopefully they get something going. Otherwise BC is gonna be hard pressed to keep relevant in the market 10+ years on.

Really? I was under the impression the only module left that can be coded is the RAM module and that only left us the option to turn ASD on or off. But ya I agree BimmerCode and other similar apps are going to struggle.

And even worse for us as consumers if something breaks and we want to replace the part, we have to go in to the dealer to get it coded to the vehicle, adding unnecessary costs.

[Kramers oddly shaped hair]

Originally Posted by AdonisP91

Really? I was under the impression the only module left that can be coded is the RAM module and that only left us the option to turn ASD on or off. But ya I agree BimmerCode and other similar apps are going to struggle.

And even worse for us as consumers if something breaks and we want to replace the part, we have to go in to the dealer to get it coded to the vehicle, adding unnecessary costs.

I found this post in a search
https://g20.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=2153295

[IanH]

I posted all the functions that can be coded on 2025 M240, its still a good amount but certain things are locked off. IMO still worth it to have bimmercode in the 2025 model.

https://g87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...&postcount=129

2025 has far better exterior look (on most colors) without the black lower panel paint.

Steering wheel is much better looking, but possible to retrofit the new wheel to older car.

I drive 8.5 is significantly faster hardware and better overall software than 8

Interior dash is "cleaner" with the new design, but that's subjective.

Carbon factory trim available.

Leather console knee pads pretty minor (but I think that's different? ) Annoyingly for me these pads are the same color in every car, and don't match my cognac interior. But like I said you cant really notice them without looking for it.

[J-RO]

Originally Posted by AdonisP91

Really? I was under the impression the only module left that can be coded is the RAM module and that only left us the option to turn ASD on or off. But ya I agree BimmerCode and other similar apps are going to struggle.

And even worse for us as consumers if something breaks and we want to replace the part, we have to go in to the dealer to get it coded to the vehicle, adding unnecessary costs.

But more money for the dealers!

[AdonisP91]

Originally Posted by J-RO

But more money for the dealers!

And the insurance companies… All prices must rise!

[Kramers oddly shaped hair]

Here's hoping this is a small hiccup then. Probably gonna pull the trigger on a '25 purely for the added aesthetics.

[AdonisP91]

Originally Posted by Kramers oddly shaped hair

Here's hoping this is a small hiccup then. Probably gonna pull the trigger on a '25 purely for the added aesthetics.

That’s what I ended up doing too. There was a used one I test drove but they wanted 60,000$ Canadian for it when a brand new 2025 was 72,000$. I figured might as well get a customized 2025. The wait has been killing me though

[Kramers oddly shaped hair]

Originally Posted by AdonisP91

That’s what I ended up doing too. There was a used one I test drove but they wanted 60,000$ Canadian for it when a brand new 2025 was 72,000$. I figured might as well get a customized 2025. The wait has been killing me though

When did you order? Can't imagine it would take too long. The added benefit of a warranty is also very compelling. Haven't had a warranty on my car in so long. Gonna be real great not having to drop $500+ every other month on something besides mods.