[BgsDks]

A:"I have an opinion!"

B: "I too have an opinion!"

A: "Your opinion is different from mine, ergo your's sucks!"

B: "No, your opinion sucks - to infinity!"

[JABCAT]

Originally Posted by fzr100098

Completely irrelevant arguments

I'm well aware CTEK trinket chargers are rebranded by several manufacturers - what does that prove? It proves they got paid to slap a name on it....is that really all you have ? CTEK chargers are made in China, genius. Optimate chargers are designed in Canada and manufactured in the US. You are supporting more imported Chinese junk - hope you're proud. Yes they may work but if you actually OWN both of them (and not just talk out of your azz about both) the difference in quality is night and day

Sheesh....back to romper room hour with carefree mind....

You realize you've not provided any actual evidence to support your original statement that CTEK chargers are junk and your follow-up claim that Optimate chargers perform any better.

You then deflect to the tired stereotype that all items made in China are junk and a part manufactured in the US is somehow superior. Can you actually provide evidence they are manufactured in the US because everything I've found says they're designed & made in Belgium & some in Canada. They did open a US distribution center in Alabama in 2023 according to their website. But nothing says they're made in the

"2005 – An Engineering facility that controls product Research and Development, Manufacturing and Quality Assurance was established in Canada. All TecMate products are designed in Canada and global manufacturing is controlled from Canada."



This whole argument is ironic coming from someone who purchased a German car made in Mexico. That German car made in Mexico is comprised of quite a few parts made in China.

As I said previously, I have 3 CTEK chargers that have been used continuously for 9, 6, & 3 years respectively. I've not had a single issue with any of them. I also purchased one for my MIL several years ago that is working flawlessly.

It's fine to say "I prefer x for abc reason" but you've provided zero supporting evidence to label an entire line of chargers "junk" nor that your preferred brand is any better. 🍻

[Tag]

[Ronin76]

Do we have that engineer with all those patents back in the forum…just under a new handle??

[Tag]

Originally Posted by Ronin76

Do we have that engineer with all those patents back in the forum…just under a new handle??

Don't you dare...

[Ronin76]

Originally Posted by Tag

Don't you dare...

LOL

[vadim77]

Originally Posted by RMB

Looking for advice. I took delivery of my car after PPF a little over a week from initial pickup at BMW Fairfax. When I programmed the car with BMW Genius at delivery there were no error messages. It started right up and drove home fine, but the error message stayed. I hooked it up overnight to a CTEK but the error message persists.. It still started fine thus AM. Currently charging again. Any thoughts? Help? Snow storm coming and at least it is home in the garage. Is the battery just a regular car battery in the G87 M2, or is it some light weight Li battery or something? Any help is greatly appreciated.

I am sure, the car was stored in the dealers garage for a long time without proper charging. So you will need to change 12v AGM battery. Dealer can tell you it's not a garranty case, but push on them, it's fully their fault to destroy battery, and they should change for free. Same happened to me 15 years ago)). They simply can forget to charge the battery in proper way, and the battery now quickly losing capacity due to damaged plates inside.

[RMB]

Originally Posted by vadim77

I am sure, the car was stored in the dealers garage for a long time without proper charging. So you will need to change 12v AGM battery. Dealer can tell you it's not a garranty case, but push on them, it's fully their fault to destroy battery, and they should change for free. Same happened to me 15 years ago)). They simply can forget to charge the battery in proper way, and the battery now quickly losing capacity due to damaged plates inside.

Thank you for the reply. I am scheduled next week to get it looked at/replaced. I will keep everyone updated.

[BroDoze]

LOL @ thread.

I’ve got 3 vehicles on 3 CTEKs right this moment. Great units!

[Viffermike]

'Made in ____' is, for the most part, an inane argument anyway because:

1. It's almost always a political or societal statement, not a QC statement.
2. It's sometimes a racial statement in addition to 1. above, not a QC statement.
3. It's sometimes a nationalist statement in addition to 1. above, not a QC statement.

I mean, if you're gonna say 'Made-in-____ products are crap' or somesuch, try to be real about why you feel that way. Because only sometimes is the issue related to quality ahead of the other reasons (among others I didn't mention) above -- and this same point applies to anything manufactured, whether en masse, by hand, or any combination between.

(Disclosure: I swear by CTEK chargers, which surpassed the former trickle-charger benchmark, Battery Tender, a good 15-20 years ago.)

[JABCAT]

Originally Posted by Viffermike

'Made in ____' is, for the most part, an inane argument anyway because:

1. It's almost always a political or societal statement, not a QC statement.
2. It's sometimes a racial statement in addition to 1. above, not a QC statement.
3. It's sometimes a nationalist statement in addition to 1. above, not a QC statement.

I mean, if you're gonna say 'Made-in-____ products are crap' or somesuch, try to be real about why you feel that way. Because only sometimes is the issue related to quality ahead of the other reasons (among others I didn't mention) above -- and this same point applies to anything manufactured, whether en masse, by hand, or any combination between.

(Disclosure: I swear by CTEK chargers, which surpassed the former trickle-charger benchmark, Battery Tender, a good 15-20 years ago.)

It's ironic coming from someone touting Made in America while owning a German vehicle made in Mexico with only 5-6% US parts content.

[ajchoi]

Originally Posted by fzr100098

Talk about a desperate and silly comeback

Just buy both and examine the quality, there is NO comparison. CTEK is a trinket

Yes, you only know what you know, which isn't much

I connect the Optimate directly to the battery and have done it for at least 10 years, it's will automatically charge the battery to optimum state - they are awesome

I have and use both in my family and neither have issues. Maybe you need to take better care of your things. Family has used both reliably for YEARS (this includes euro car mechanics). But your single opinion seems to be more important than facts. I’d hate to be discussing politics at your family’s holiday parties, good god, what an unbearably conceited tone you convey. How old are you supposed to be?

Please don’t answer that, because the only people who speak like this are toddlers between 2 and 4 years old.

Guy comes here for advice on his battery info, is told by some stranger he’s not smart for using a CTEK. You came here to make this thread about how smart you are. It’s honestly one of the saddest things to see adult babies act this way on the internet. Big man say big smart thing to feel big strong smart!

Given my username I am not even gonna touch the made in china comment - I can just tell your level of ignorance and incompetence given how many components are made there for all the stuff you use every day. But keep going on about how smart and right you are. You’re just another sad lonely guy who wants to feel remotely in control of something by spewing hate and nonsense on the internet.

[Carefree]

You’re giving this lightweight too much attention.
He’s always going to be the smartest but most unreasonable kid in every situation.
If he fell on a pin he’d be blind in both eyes.
Ignore him.

[fzr100098]

Originally Posted by ajchoi

I have and use both in my family and neither have issues. Maybe you need to take better care of your things. Family has used both reliably for YEARS (this includes euro car mechanics). But your single opinion seems to be more important than facts. I’d hate to be discussing politics at your family’s holiday parties, good god, what an unbearably conceited tone you convey. How old are you supposed to be?

Please don’t answer that, because the only people who speak like this are toddlers between 2 and 4 years old.

Go f yourself buddy, I say that politely

Guy comes here for advice on his battery info, is told by some stranger he’s not smart for using a CTEK. You came here to make this thread about how smart you are. It’s honestly one of the saddest things to see adult babies act this way on the internet. Big man say big smart thing to feel big strong smart!

You're going off on another crystal ball pyscho-babble rant which is the usual playbook and tired response.

Again, if you actually owned both, you would understand Optimate is simply a better quality charger - PERIOD. Everything else is arm waving

QC associated with Chinese products is better than it was in some cases, true, but I still prefer to buy American where a superior product is available. Again, you're turning this into a personal vendetta instead of a product comparison and I never made it personal until the usual azzholes like you did...have a nice day and hug your CTEK pos charger

[fzr100098]

Originally Posted by Carefree

I'm a lightweight craving attention.

Ignore me

Ok

[Tag]

OptiMate Warranty: 3yrs

C-TEK Warranty: 5yrs

[Carefree]

Originally Posted by fzr100098

Ok

Count the number of appreciations in your posts Beavis.
Let me help you out.
Start with 1, which isn’t included, and count backwards.
LOL

As I posted earlier, when you argue with stupid people they’ll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
You win again Beavis.

[JABCAT]

Originally Posted by fzr100098

QC associated with Chinese products is better than it was in some cases, true, but I still prefer to buy American where a superior product is available. Again, you're turning this into a personal vendetta instead of a product comparison and I never made it personal until the usual azzholes like you did...have a nice day and hug your CTEK pos charger

Interesting which posts you choose to respond to & which you ignore. Again, I currently have 3 CTEK chargers working flawlessly for 9, 6, & 3 years respectively. One vehicle sees less than 1k/yr & is constantly plugged in, another vehicle has seen less than 1k mi in the last 3 years & constantly plugged in. I also mentioned I've purchased CTEK chargers for family that are still working without issue for several years. It seems my sample size and use is larger than your 2 chargers.

There is also nothing that I could find that says Optimate chargers are made in the US. If you can point to anything that attests to that, please do. As I cited from their parent company website, they have a distribution center in Alabama as of 2023. They also have a headquarters in Canada that "controls global manufacturing". That doesn't say they are manufactured in Canada only that their manufacturing arm is controlled from Canada. But again, if you have any actual evidence to the contrary, post it up.

If not, you're just spouting an opinion, and an uneducated one at that 🍻

[ajchoi]

Originally Posted by fzr100098

Go f yourself buddy, I say that politely

The short response means I hit too close to home for this loser hahaha

[fzr100098]

Nah it means you edited my response, loser

Use whatever you want, the world will keep turning. CTEK chargers are junk in my experience

[Bimmer Frank]

Originally Posted by fzr100098

Nah it means you edited my response, loser

Use whatever you want, the world will keep turning. CTEK chargers are junk in my experience

How did this thread go so far off the rails? OP was just looking for some advice on a battery issue he is having, I don't think he was looking for an opinion on his choice of battery charger.

[BgsDks]

Originally Posted by Bimmer Frank

How did this thread go so far off the rails? OP was just looking for some advice on a battery issue he is having, I don't think he was looking for a opinion on his choice of battery charger.

But he sure got some opinions, along with a volley of ad hominem insults typically utilized by anonymous internet users who quickly shed their veneer of civility in these fora.