[JABCAT]

Originally Posted by wjones14

It's funny to think about the things we complain about now. How hard is it to tap the seat icon to see the heating level?

I understand your point though, since it's something you used to be able to do and now you can't. Removing all the physical buttons and
knobs created a whole bunch of inconveniences.

It's the fact that the driver has to take their eyes off the road to make what used to be simple adjustments. There's no tactile feel to the screen so you have no idea if you're pressing in the right location, thus again you have to look at it to do it. The reason they need to add things like lane assist, collision avoidance, emergency braking, etc., is in part for other crap changes like this.

I can adjust the seats (heated or cooled) in my wife's X3MC without taking my eyes off the road. Same with the temp (up or down) and fan speed because I know where those buttons are. And like I mentioned above, if my climate is set to auto I cannot manually activate the seats if the car decides it's not cold enough unless I turn off the auto program (have to look at the screen to make sure I touch the slider in the exact right spot) then hit the seat control which also requires looking at the screen.

Re: the voice controls, I'm not that old but there's just something about driving in the car and saying "hey bmw do xyz" that is just idiotic to me. Same as having Alexa or google controls in one's house or saying "hey siri" on the cell phone. To me it's just stupid. Oh and yes "get off my lawn" while we're at it

[jmg]

Originally Posted by JABCAT

It's the fact that the driver has to take their eyes off the road to make what used to be simple adjustments. There's no tactile feel to the screen so you have no idea if you're pressing in the right location, thus again you have to look at it to do it. The reason they need to add things like lane assist, collision avoidance, emergency braking, etc., is in part for other crap changes like this.

I just don't like smudges on my screen!

[IanH]

Believe me, I'm not that old and I also hate voice commands.

I press the button on the wheel and say my command, it shortens the phrase. For oil temp you are saving like 3 clicks to get into the vehicle monitor shortcut.

Its just been better than messing with the screen while driving for me, so maybe check it out!

[xtougher]

Originally Posted by wjones14

It's funny to think about the things we complain about now. How hard is it to tap the seat icon to see the heating level?

I understand your point though, since it's something you used to be able to do and now you can't. Removing all the physical buttons and
knobs created a whole bunch of inconveniences.

The thing I miss most from my F87 M2 is the red and blue dial on the upper vents to quickly change between hot and cool. When the "genius" was going over the G87 with me during delivery, I mentioned that dial, and he said "oh it's right here in Climate->Individual Settings->Temperature Adjustment upper body." So now it's two menu levels and clicking the temperature you want (while you're driving), compared to turning a dial to Red or Blue.

He just shrugged his shoulders and said that most people now just turn it to Hot in winter and Cold in summer and leave it there. But the whole point of that dial was to make a quick adjustment one way or the other. Sigh...

This was my first complaint for sure: the missing red/blue wheel.

I used to be able to go most of the year and not touch anything but that wheel and be comfortable. Now, touchscreen it is...

[JABCAT]

Got stuck in 45 min of bumper-to-bumper traffic after 3.5 hours of driving and had the ACC on. 1. Noticed when it brings the car down to 0 mph for more than ~5 seconds, you need to press the gas pedal to make it go again. 2. Became nauseous with its constant speed up/slam on the brakes behavior. This was with the distance set at close. Set at medium there was just too much space & cars kept darting in. Had to turn it off.

[DarkNight707]

Originally Posted by JABCAT

Got stuck in 45 min of bumper-to-bumper traffic after 3.5 hours of driving and had the ACC on. 1. Noticed when it brings the car down to 0 mph for more than ~5 seconds, you need to press the gas pedal to make it go again. 2. Became nauseous with its constant speed up/slam on the brakes behavior. This was with the distance set at close. Set at medium there was just too much space & cars kept darting in. Had to turn it off.

I hate that feature with passion. I would love to rip it off the car. Everytime it accidentally goes off, I freak out thinking the car broke down.

[jmg]

Originally Posted by JABCAT

Got stuck in 45 min of bumper-to-bumper traffic after 3.5 hours of driving and had the ACC on. 1. Noticed when it brings the car down to 0 mph for more than ~5 seconds, you need to press the gas pedal to make it go again. 2. Became nauseous with its constant speed up/slam on the brakes behavior. This was with the distance set at close. Set at medium there was just too much space & cars kept darting in. Had to turn it off.

If I'm using ACC and the gap is too big, I just give it a little gas. Or I just sit back and relax. A few cars darting in isn't going to really affect my drive time.

[JABCAT]

Originally Posted by jmg

If I'm using ACC and the gap is too big, I just give it a little gas. Or I just sit back and relax. A few cars darting in isn't going to really affect my drive time.

It was really accelerating & slamming on the brakes, worse than my 15 yr old with his learning permit. As I mentioned in a previous post, when I accelerate to try to close the gap it feels as if the car is still applying the brakes. To be fair, a "gap" between cars in TX is about 1/3 car length & Bobby Joe with his Silverado thinks he's gettin in there.

[jmg]

Originally Posted by JABCAT

It was really accelerating & slamming on the brakes, worse than my 15 yr old with his learning permit. As I mentioned in a previous post, when I accelerate to try to close the gap it feels as if the car is still applying the brakes. To be fair, a "gap" between cars in TX is about 1/3 car length & Bobby Joe with his Silverado thinks he's gettin in there.

lol that makes sense!

The ACC on our VW was the same way. I got used to easing off the throttle. If you lift completely the car will brake. I’m wondering if brake in comfort mode would make it smoother?

[JABCAT]

Originally Posted by jmg

lol that makes sense!

I’m wondering if brake in comfort mode would make it smoother?

Interesting question. I always have brakes & steering in Sport. Transmission was D1 & engine was in "efficient"

For a while I was behind this new 911 & I could see the driver looking up in the mirror every time my car accelerated and slammed on the brakes behind him. He was, I'm sure, wondering what the heck I was doing. It would wait to brake (on the closest setting) until it would flash the red warning alert on the cluster/HUD. It just wasn't working very smoothly at all in that type of traffic.

[stashstein]

I say this as someone who doesn't use voice commands for ANYTHING on my phone or in other cars.

The bmw voice commands work awesome. They are fast and useful. I use "what is my oil temperature?" All the time. It also is equally good for changing the set temperature or heated elements.

How do you get the voice commands to be fast?

Every command I try with my 23, the car will think for a good 10-15 seconds and 95% of the time ask me to repeat. Then I enunciate like a crazy man, car thinks for another 10-15 seconds and then (usually) does the thing I asked.

[IanH]

Originally Posted by stashstein

How do you get the voice commands to be fast?

Every command I try with my 23, the car will think for a good 10-15 seconds and 95% of the time ask me to repeat. Then I enunciate like a crazy man, car thinks for another 10-15 seconds and then (usually) does the thing I asked.

Might be idrive 8.5? Mine recognizes correctly 99% of the time and responds within a couple seconds.

[SpaceGhost]

If you long press the music note on the control display, it brings up music settings etc.

[goa87]

the g87 comes without gesture controls? or does it need to be activated from idrive? thanks in advance !

[jmg]

Originally Posted by IanH

Might be idrive 8.5? Mine recognizes correctly 99% of the time and responds within a couple seconds.

Ditto, it’s a few seconds at the most where the system is thinking. I’m on 8.5 as well.

[Scrutineer]

I discovered that I still had film on the M2 logos on the seats! Whoops. haha

[jmg]

Originally Posted by Scrutineer

I discovered that I still had film on the M2 logos on the seats! Whoops. haha

I full year had passed on my G82 when I discovered this.

[jmg]

The steering in COMFORT mode is much lighter than my G82's COMFORT mode. I actually think this is a good thing though.

I NEVER used SPORT steering in my F80 M3, F80 M3 CS, and G82 M4 because it felt so overly stiff and un-natural, even on the track!

In the G87 however, I can finally use SPORT steering and feel like I'm taking advantage of the "sporty" setting.


I also discovered that I prefer skinnier steering wheels, as I am having the same slight discomfort with the G87 wheel as I did with the equally thick F80 M3 CS steering wheel after more than an hour of driving. A small discomfort, but noteworthy.

[evdoho]

Originally Posted by JABCAT

Got stuck in 45 min of bumper-to-bumper traffic after 3.5 hours of driving and had the ACC on. 1. Noticed when it brings the car down to 0 mph for more than ~5 seconds, you need to press the gas pedal to make it go again. 2. Became nauseous with its constant speed up/slam on the brakes behavior. This was with the distance set at close. Set at medium there was just too much space & cars kept darting in. Had to turn it off.

This won’t help with the hard braking, but instead of pressing the throttle to start moving again, you can press the “resume” button on the steering wheel

[JABCAT]

Originally Posted by evdoho

This won’t help with the hard braking, but instead of pressing the throttle to start moving again, you can press the “resume” button on the steering wheel

Good to know

[Bumpinjeep]

Originally Posted by stashstein

How do you get the voice commands to be fast?

Every command I try with my 23, the car will think for a good 10-15 seconds and 95% of the time ask me to repeat. Then I enunciate like a crazy man, car thinks for another 10-15 seconds and then (usually) does the thing I asked.

"Hey BMW, call the wife."
...Pardon?!?
"Call the wife!"
...Could you repeat that?
"Caaaalll....theeee....wiiiiife"
Calling the wife on their mobile phone

[J-RO]

Try saying "Call the girlfriend" and see what happens.