[e90335e36m3]

Originally Posted by antzcrashing

The first page of this thread is basically pure satire. And I strongly approve.

But back to seriousness: the M3 resale is plummeting instantly on this news

The first two - three pages is JustinHemi convincing everyone that he doesn’t care about the bump in power, but it’s pretty obvious how disappointed he is.

[Sethhboii]

Originally Posted by e90335e36m3

The first two - three pages is JustinHemi convincing everyone that he doesn’t care about the bump in power, but it’s pretty obvious how disappointed he is.

JustinHEMI
Guys, I mean the car dynos at 475 (give or take) plus a few bolt ons and boom. Just tune it to get where you want. My M2 will be here in September, with the (452)hp. Honestly, a 25hp bump won’t be felt, and if you’re going to tune it then no worries. I’ll do FBO and tune forsure. I don’t think it’s a deal breaker. I also don’t think anyone is going to say “Holy shit, a power bump!”

[weingarm]

Originally Posted by FrozenGT

The G82/G80 LCI will be receiving HP bumps as well. I think 525HP for the comps.

And my bet is about 495HP (advertised HP) on the G82/80 LCI non-comps (base 6MT).

That would be a 22HP bump, just like the G87

[Axylus]

I don’t know much about HP, but is a 22 bump significant? What delta is considered significant? What is a significant beginning value?

[stefan]

Originally Posted by Axylus

I don’t know much about HP, but is a 22 bump significant? What delta is considered significant? What is a significant beginning value?

It's mainly marketing, but that's enough to affect resale. The buyers of M cars are very concerned about things like figures and lap times.

[eddj]

Originally Posted by Sethhboii

JustinHEMI
Guys, I mean the car dynos at 475 (give or take) plus a few bolt ons and boom. Just tune it to get where you want. My M2 will be here in September, with the (452)hp. Honestly, a 25hp bump won’t be felt, and if you’re going to tune it then no worries. I’ll do FBO and tune forsure. I don’t think it’s a deal breaker. I also don’t think anyone is going to say “Holy shit, a power bump!”

Its not only the difference of performance between stock versus stock owners which choose to have their drivetrain warranties not being voided, we are also talking about new extra colors and probably also the new idrive 9 system for M cars and the new M steering wheel maybe ?

[Sethhboii]

Originally Posted by eddj

Its not only the difference of performance between stock versus stock owners which choose to have their drivetrain warranties not voided, we are also talking about new extra colors and probably also the new idrive 9 system for M cars

I didn’t read into this where there is Skyscraper being added! That’s my bad.

I just don’t think 25hp is a seller, nor 1 additional color. I don’t know of many people who keep their M cars stock but I’m 26 and all my friends with Ms are young and dumb so that is that.

[eddj]

Originally Posted by Sethhboii

I didn’t read into this where there is Skyscraper being added! That’s my bad.

I just don’t think 25hp is a seller, nor 1 additional color. I don’t know of many people who keep their M cars stock but I’m 26 and all my friends with Ms are young and dumb so that is that.

that new M steering wheel with carbon fibre and M colors stitching would look nice to be honest hopefully MY2024s will come with those as well!

[JMcLellan]

My wife is wondering what model year they install the vibrator in the front passenger seat? Shouldn't be a drivers seat option due to the distractions it would cause.

[Squidget]

Originally Posted by JMcLellan

My wife is wondering what model year they install the vibrator in the front passenger seat? Shouldn't be a drivers seat option due to the distractions it would cause.

Tell GM that, since they have vibrating seat pans for the driver. Groosss.

[Bumpinjeep]

Originally Posted by Squidget

Tell GM that, since they have vibrating seat pans for the driver. Groosss.

"I had a long day, I need to take the car out for a...drive." - Wife

[JMcLellan]

Originally Posted by Squidget

Tell GM that, since they have vibrating seat pans for the driver. Groosss.

Oh no.....I was just joking around. GM took it too far.

[JMcLellan]

Originally Posted by Bumpinjeep

"I had a long day, I need to take the car out for a...drive." - Wife

Wife comes back super relaxed and in a great mood. Must have been the drive.......

Watching Netflix and chilling with the wife. Wife gets up and says "going for a drive again". Oh crap.....husband replaced by car.

[Squidget]

Originally Posted by Axylus

I don’t know much about HP, but is a 22 bump significant? What delta is considered significant? What is a significant beginning value?

It doesn't matter very much WHAT the number is. It matters WHERE it is.

Since this is likely just a "retune," it's just a little less torque falloff near the redline. So it's only available at 6500+ RPM.

To tap this power, you need to be going to near-redline AND spending some time there. In other words, 3rd gear, 100MPH+. A rare scenario on the street, I hope!

For drag races and "power" tracks, this tune would be welcome. However, the kind of owner who does those is probably already applying mods and tunes, so this likely won't matter to them either.

[JustinHEMI]

Originally Posted by Sethhboii

JustinHEMI
Guys, I mean the car dynos at 475 (give or take) plus a few bolt ons and boom. Just tune it to get where you want. My M2 will be here in September, with the (452)hp. Honestly, a 25hp bump won’t be felt, and if you’re going to tune it then no worries. I’ll do FBO and tune forsure. I don’t think it’s a deal breaker. I also don’t think anyone is going to say “Holy shit, a power bump!”

There's a reason that clown is on my ignore list.

[Sethhboii]

Originally Posted by JustinHEMI

There's a reason that clown is on my ignore list.

I didn’t know there was a thing, gotta add that Seaford troll 😈

[Tag]

We know it's going to be the same exact tune as the current base M3/4 which have 473hp. We don't need to speculate; we have the specs.

MY23/24 G87
Max. output 453hp at 6,250 RPM
Max. torque 406ft-lbs at 2,650 – 5,870 RPM

Base G80/2
Max. output 473hp at 6,250 RPM
Max. torque 406ft-lbs at 2,650 – 6,130 RPM

[Squidget]

Originally Posted by Tag

We know it's going to be the same exact tune as the current base M3/4 which have 473hp. We don't need to speculate; we have the specs.

MY23/24 G87
Max. output 453hp at 6,250 RPM
Max. torque 406ft-lbs at 2,650 – 5,870 RPM

Base G80/2
Max. output 473hp at 6,250 RPM
Max. torque 406ft-lbs at 2,650 – 6,130 RPM

Yup, all they did was undo the detune.

[Tag]

Originally Posted by Sethhboii

I didn’t read into this where there is Skyscraper being added! That’s my bad.

I just don’t think 25hp is a seller, nor 1 additional color. I don’t know of many people who keep their M cars stock but I’m 26 and all my friends with Ms are young and dumb so that is that.

I never liked any of the colors so for them to offer Skyscraper Grey is awesome. I still wish we had darker colors; I just think it suits the G87 better. But SG is now my top choice unless something better comes along.

[Squidget]

Originally Posted by Tag

I never liked any of the colors so for them to offer Skyscraper Grey is awesome. I still wish we had darker colors; I just think it suits the G87 better. But SG is now my top choice unless something better comes along.

I would pay money to learn the algorithm that BMW uses to select colors. It's obviously not "what people want most," because if it was, IOMG would be offered on every car

It's gotta be some weird combination of segmentation, loss-leading, hype generation, and fealty to the demands of ancient Lovecraftian gods. Probably not in that order.

[Sethhboii]

Originally Posted by M2siast

Interesting take.
I’ve never seen an IOMG car, and definitely would never even consider buying one.

Oh, I would. IOMG looks sick asf IMO, and paired with brown interior. Crazy combo.

[Carefree]

Originally Posted by Squidget

I would pay money to learn the algorithm that BMW uses to select colors. It's obviously not "what people want most," because if it was, IOMG would be offered on every car

It's gotta be some weird combination of segmentation, loss-leading, hype generation, and fealty to the demands of ancient Lovecraftian gods. Probably not in that order.

Try this