05-27-2023, 01:07 PM | #89 |
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lmao at some nutter saying the M2 is better than a Carrera. Look, if you had to pick a manual car to drive where price wasn't in the equation no one would take the M2.
The M2 is great because it's a *relative* bargain. |
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05-27-2023, 01:41 PM | #90 | |
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Off all the comments on that page, yours sounds the most butthurt. Will just leave this here, and I quote, "This thing is amazing". Coming from guys who were running the Supra previously. No affiliation, no bias, pure driving enthusiasts. |
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05-27-2023, 02:05 PM | #92 |
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Pretty sure James liked the RS3 4 years ago as well, when put up against the M2 comp - that's fine, it's a personal choice entirely. Not sure why we were expecting anything different this time... the RS3 is brilliant in its own right..
Secondly, the same thing was said about steering feel with the F87, that it was lacklustre or something to that effect, by Thomas this time, so why are we surprised that feedback continues... BMW have improved the M2 and the performance is all there to be seen.. the G87 cs will take the F87 cs to the cleaners and that doesn't surprise me one bit. That's the sole aim of new technology - "To improve things" Last edited by Ctothej; 05-27-2023 at 02:11 PM.. |
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05-27-2023, 03:07 PM | #94 |
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You know, the 2008 M3 is a nice car.
You can enjoy it, and shouldn’t care if people think it’s ugly. The M2, the same way, is not for everyone. Especially because even people that WANT it can’t seem to get it soon enough. So, it’s probably a good thing you don’t want it. You don’t have to have it. Sour grapes is the worst type of butthurt. Why join the forum of a car you don’t like? I don’t understand how I could go to a Hyundai forum to talk smack about the ioniq 5/6. The same way, people can’t get enough of those… Hope your day improves |
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05-27-2023, 03:15 PM | #95 |
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To me Audi's "3" just screams entry level to me. RS3 included. I agree with the front end. There isn't a single view of the car I find appealing. Zero aggressive lines and it's as wide as an A3.
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05-27-2023, 03:16 PM | #96 |
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And people think the G87 is ugly.
That RS3 front grille is beyond the pale...
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05-27-2023, 03:31 PM | #97 | |
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The RS3's front is bad, but I think the rear is even worse. The black strip of fake honeycomb is, in my opinion, even more egregious than the front. There are spy shots of a new Audi 3 with these design cues fixed, so let's hope it's the RS3. |
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05-27-2023, 03:39 PM | #98 | |
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And speaking of asinine arguments, that's exactly what an F87 vs G87 discussion is - we're a whole generation ahead now. Time for the F87 to step aside. Just like with most other generational upgrades across other M performance cars. But like roid said, pointless arguing this - people will not see reason even if it hits them in the face. |
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05-27-2023, 04:07 PM | #99 | |
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I own the car. I know how well the car drives and performs. I know how much positive attention my ZB car gets every time I take it out. Not sure what people who call it ugly and slow hope to achieve. |
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05-27-2023, 04:17 PM | #100 | |
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05-27-2023, 04:27 PM | #101 |
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I think that is most of the BMW lineup from what I’ve heard. Yes, that even includes the 4 series. They are all striking cars in their own ways. Some more than others ofc haha, but still. I certainly love the look of my car
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05-27-2023, 05:17 PM | #104 |
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That Audi is so unattractive a car, yet, people give the G87 shit???!?!?
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As a current gen Audi owner & an M2 owner i really do think that RS3 sedan is one ugly looking car. The hatch we get here is waaaay better looking than the sedan but I still couldn’t own a car with bigger tyres on the front than the rear, that’s just wrong.
The RS3 does drive pretty well imo but it’s no M2. The A45 AMG is a far better proposition (recently sold mine) than the RS3 imo but again it’s no M car. I do wish some M2 owners would calm the f down every time someone says something negative about the car though, it’s not a very mature way to behave. I saw the same thing with M2CS owners when it was released so you can’t say it’s just some G87 owners, reviewers are reviewing the car NOT the owner, don’t take it personally, it’s just an opinion & many reviewers like many owners don’t know shit anyway. Hell my own wife prefers my Golf GTI over my prized M2.😂
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05-27-2023, 06:05 PM | #107 |
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I'm probably going to get a lot of hate for this but here we go...
I've watched a lot of reviews about the G87 M2 and I've read pages of reactions on this forum. M2 is not a perfect car and I think people here should be able to take some criticism about their cars. Any reviewer who said anything that wasn't positive about the M2 got called out here and that's ridiculous IMO...they are just stating their opinion and what they want in the car, plus its better to have honest reviews rather than some channels out there who just talk about the positives not to piss anybody off. That's just my 2 cents to not get mad or defensive about everything. |
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The G87 is a better car performance wise and tech wise. The F87 is still a good car performance wise but is now old gen by virtue of the G87 being its successor. Looks are subjective. Comments on looks are opinions, and just that. Some of us love it, some of us don't, as is with everything else in life. Driving dynamics are subjective. A great example is Thomas v James - former loves his BMWs and the latter his Audis. Does the G87 have its flaws? Ofcourse. Does the F87 have its flaws? Ofcourse. I don't believe anyone here has ever said the G87 is the best car in the world PERIOD and the same with the F87. The purpose of this forum is to discuss the car - and along with, anything negative and/or positive said about the car, and one's opinion about it. Beyond that, each to their own. The bashing needs to stop. As long as it doesn't, the defense will continue - it's only normal to want to defend something you believe to be inaccurate. The last I will say about this. |
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Whether it's a video or in print, most reviews have at least something negative to say and really only a handful have been flamed here. Most of the flaws seem to be subjective... "it's ugly", "less playful", "not what an M2 should be" and so on. It's an objectively better car yet the people that didn't get the new M2 they wanted are having a hard time accepting that they didn't get their way, and that some people prefer it the way it is now. Reviewers stating their honest opinion is great. They should at least provide accurate specs/info and be as consistent as possible. People here are allowed to give their own opinions on said reviews, otherwise just post the video/article and lock the thread. No need for people to get mad or defensive just because not everyone agrees with their favorite YouTuber. |
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I was comparing lines 9 and 11 G87 vs SS 1LE both on Cup 2. Only 4/10th of a second, which given day to day variability is essentially a wash, even though the 1LE was a manual, and down on acceleration - must be doing much better in corners.
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