G87 M2 vs Porsche Cayman 718 GTS - Drag Race

Squidget · 05-31-2023, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by babym_gen

Question about the bmw launch control: there is no way to select the launch RPM? I remember in the previous generations there was a switch, you could set 2500, 3000, ...

I don't remember seeing anything about it in the car manual. This may require a mod, unfortunately.

FoxyP · 05-31-2023, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by LCDRJohn

Do they ever explain in the vids how they got an M2 to weigh 3950LBS???

Like I already stated in the other thread its the correct EU weight, which includs the driver (68kg) and luggage (7kg). No mistery here…

Ambrozie · 05-31-2023, 12:07 PM

Pretty easy choice to make if you enjoy driving.

The Porsche.

AlpineBoost · 05-31-2023, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 440i6MT

Pretty easy choice to make if you enjoy driving.

The Porsche.

I like the 4.0 a lot but comparing base prices it's also $33,000 more expensive than the M2. Personally it's a tough sell.

AndyinHou · 05-31-2023, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by M2siast

Just the fact that the M2 is being compared to it is a testament of how much performance it has on track. It does what the Cayman GTS does, but carrying a family and Costco groceries, costing a fraction of a GTS. This is the allure of BMW and why we stick to it.

I will say, with 4 cases of citrus fruit and 100lbs of sugar in the trunk, the handling changes a little. It also probably weighs in at TH’s claimed 3900lbs at that point, too!

akkando · 05-31-2023, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by M Division

Same as the other TH reviews... The old M2 that Thomas happens to own is better, blah blah

You must have accidentally forgot to include his criticism of the cayman GTS in your post. Honest mistake I'm sure, don't worry about it. But boy is he super biased against the Cayman GTS 4.0 right?

pizza240 · 05-31-2023, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by akkando

You must have accidentally forgot to include his criticism of the cayman GTS in your post. Honest mistake I'm sure, don't worry about it. But boy is he super biased against the Cayman GTS 4.0 right?

I don't like Throttle House, I didn't watch the video and I don't care to; but I must say, having had a 981 GT4 and a 718 Spyder alongside a F87 M2C, I can't disagree with someone arguing that the Cayman GTS is overrated (because most Porsches are). M2C was always the go to. More fun, more space, felt faster on the road, etc.
Can only imagine the GTS 4.0 would be more disappointing to me.

GTS 2.5 on the other hand, I wish I bought, but still probably not as fun as the BMW.

These days I'm only interested in Porsches that are $200K+ (GT3, GT4RS, Turbo, Turbo S, etc.).

If you can't afford those, then BMW M is the better car.

My opinions of course, and note that I do not go to the track often.

ScottyK329 · 05-31-2023, 01:18 PM

His bias towards the M2 shows in how he launches the M2 0 of the 10 levels selected. The sweet spot is #3 or 4. The M2 hooks up way better than that.

StickyPickle · 05-31-2023, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by FoxyP

Like I already stated in the other thread its the correct EU weight, which includs the driver (68kg) and luggage (7kg). No mistery here…

Who TF uses EU curb weight when talking about how much a car weighs in North America??? And plus they are going by Audi’s “official” spec for the RS3’s EU weight but I’m questioning it’s reported DIN weight of 3,472 pounds. I’ve seen several RS3 owners put their’s on a scale and consistently weigh over 3,600 pounds.

FoxyP · 05-31-2023, 01:30 PM

Obviously TH does…
(DIN and EU are not the same)

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Originally Posted by zero21

I think the heaviest version possible is right at 3900 (auto, moonroof, etc). They had a carbon pack car with auto which would be right around 3790-3800 with 90% gas.

They clearly didn't weigh the car and they definitely post the highest possible weight.

Not quite: 1800kg / 3968lbs is the EU weight which is the car in its stock form how it is sold in europe without any options (so excl. moonroof but also excl. bucket seats) but including a driver and luggage (75kg).

But whatever - it doesnt change the fact that the G87 is a fat pig

Rat_House · 05-31-2023, 01:33 PM

Atleast they didn’t do this race in the rain

T_U_D · 05-31-2023, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by m2ss

All I got from that video is that the 718 is overpriced...

That is basically any new Porsche and even more so after the recent price increase with another one expected in the next few months.

zero21 · 05-31-2023, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by FoxyP

Obviously TH does…
(DIN and EU are not the same)

Not quite: 1800kg / 3968lbs is the EU weight which is the car in its stock form how it is sold in europe without any options (so excl. moonroof but also excl. bucket seats) but including a driver and luggage (75kg).

But whatever - it doesnt change the fact that the G87 is a fat pig

EU can do whatever they want for weights. I go by US standards. The car fueled does not weigh more than 3900lbs by itself.

10" · 05-31-2023, 01:58 PM

same dull channel with another dull video

Montaver · 05-31-2023, 02:01 PM

So much salt in this thread, my word. Clearly both cars are very good, but offer different experiences. As for the lap times, its not really a contest in terms of tires. 275/285 Cup2's vs 235/265 Pzero's.

FoxyP · 05-31-2023, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by zero21

EU can do whatever they want for weights. I go by US standards. The car fueled does not weigh more than 3900lbs by itself.

Oh man…

All I am saying is that the stated weight is correct. And yes, the car by itself does not weigh more than 3900lbs.

AmuroRay · 05-31-2023, 02:35 PM

It's ugly and barely track worthy with the stickiest tires and fasted transmission combo. What a utter failure this car is, but that's just where the brand is going.

Spec Sheets and "type R" BMW performance accessories.

JustinHEMI · 05-31-2023, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by AmuroRay

It's ugly and barely track worthy with the stickiest tires and fasted transmission combo. What a utter failure this car is, but that's just where the brand is going.

Spec Sheets and "type R" BMW performance accessories.

lmfao quick, someone tell Jackie.

CodeSlinger · 05-31-2023, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by AmuroRay

It's ugly and barely track worthy with the stickiest tires and fasted transmission combo. What a utter failure this car is, but that's just where the brand is going.

Spec Sheets and "type R" BMW performance accessories.

Haha that "barely track worthy"

beat a Cayman 718 GTS, a M2 comp and a Camaro SS 1LE. I know you're just here to troll people but man, that just makes me laugh.

Squidget · 05-31-2023, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by CodeSlinger

Haha that "barely track worthy"

beat a Cayman 718 GTS, a M2 comp and a Camaro SS 1LE. I know you're just here to troll people but man, that just makes me laugh.

I'm actually quite surprised to be honest. The SS 1LE is a very competent track car. I don't on paper see why the G87 would stake a significant win, they were both on Cup 2s even. I'm a fan of the G87 for sure, but even so... I'd like to see this matchup in a more head-to-head scenario.

ronin13013 · 05-31-2023, 02:58 PM

Its wild how he keeps coming back. stalker

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Originally Posted by AmuroRay

It's ugly and barely track worthy with the stickiest tires and fasted transmission combo. What a utter failure this car is, but that's just where the brand is going.

Spec Sheets and "type R" BMW performance accessories.

AmuroRay · 05-31-2023, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ronin13013

Its wild how he keeps coming back. stalker

How dare I comment on a post that is featured on the FRONT PAGE OF THE SITE.

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Montaver Colonel 3077 Rep 2,037 Posts Drives: Z4M Roadster, RS6 Performance Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: NY iTrader: (0)	So much salt in this thread, my word. Clearly both cars are very good, but offer different experiences. As for the lap times, its not really a contest in terms of tires. 275/285 Cup2's vs 235/265 Pzero's.
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