[Ravenseal]

Originally Posted by M_Power Rob

My G87 just started production this week but I have a lot ready to go. I know the figues from the tune will be about 650whp/575wtq on 93 octane (with the power band for the torque more at the low end).

You can make 600 whp with a B58 too. Now add xDrive. G42 M240 were already clocking mid 3 second 0-60s. Just accept that you bought a RWD car.

[ronin13013]

What are you implying?

Originally Posted by Ravenseal

You can make 600 whp with a B58 too. Now add xDrive. G42 M240 were already clocking mid 3 second 0-60s. Just accept that you bought a RWD car.

[Ravenseal]

Originally Posted by ronin13013

What are you implying?

That the M240i xDrive is faster than a RWD M2, and both can be tuned.

[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by Ravenseal

You can make 600 whp with a B58 too. Now add xDrive. G42 M240 were already clocking mid 3 second 0-60s. Just accept that you bought a RWD car.

And??? I own a 23 M240 RWD as well (wife's car) so I know what it can do...but it does not do mid 3 second 0-60s.

The G87 suspension is way different so car will handle the power better.

The BMW X drive is not an allways engaged AWD so I am justbfine with a RWD car.

[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by Ravenseal

That the M240i xDrive is faster than a RWD M2, and both can be tuned.

Faster how? I havent driven the 8AT G87 yet so I will reserve judgment but even if the G42 M240 has more torque at low end, dont know if I would state its ultimately a "faster" car stock.

[ronin13013]

Bro I couldn't be bothered. thanks.

Originally Posted by M_Power Rob

Faster how? I havent driven the 8AT G87 yet so I will reserve judgment but even if the G42 M240 has more torque at low end, dont know if I would state its ultimately a "faster" car stock.

[JMcLellan]

Originally Posted by Squidget

What will be your traction strategy? Stock rubber definitely won't cut it.

While you're at it with the flash tuning might as well add the XHP trans tune. Dialing in the torque limits by gear could help. I also assume a custom tune would help smooth out the power delivery to avoid the low-end torque slam.

[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by JMcLellan

While you're at it with the flash tuning might as well add the XHP trans tune. Dialing in the torque limits by gear could help. I also assume a custom tune would help smooth out the power delivery to avoid the low-end torque slam.

Yes but there have been some issues with those trying to tune the TCU. Once those issues are 💯 resolved, I will also have that done.

[JMcLellan]

Originally Posted by M_Power Rob

Yes but there have been some issues with those trying to tune the TCU. Once those issues are 💯 resolved, I will also have that done.

Nice, i was hoping XHP would be an option at some point for the G87. Aside from adding the M Perf LSD to my car, XHP has been my favorite modification I've purchased.

[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by M2siast

BMW’s Xdrive in RWD architectures is absolutely an always engaged AWD. It’s not an on demand system as you’re implying.
Not important but a correction.

Let me correct myself, it is "variable" in that it changes the distribution to front/back/side to side as it deems necessary based on the conditions. Great under certain circumstances but nit necessarily under all.

[MMMGuy60]

Originally Posted by Ravenseal

That the M240i xDrive is faster than a RWD M2, and both can be tuned.

Are you saying the 240 xdrive is faster than the M2 from 0-60. From a highway roll and faster on a race track? Can I have what you are smoking please?

[Ravenseal]

Originally Posted by MMMGuy60

Are you saying the 240 xdrive is faster than the M2 from 0-60. From a highway roll and faster on a race track? Can I have what you are smoking please?

Go read the reviews online. Google is your friend. A stock M240i xDrive will do 60 in 3.8 seconds easily.

[Ravenseal]

Originally Posted by M_Power Rob

Faster how? I havent driven the 8AT G87 yet so I will reserve judgment but even if the G42 M240 has more torque at low end, dont know if I would state its ultimately a "faster" car stock.

Originally Posted by ronin13013

Bro I couldn't be bothered. thanks.

Go read reviews online. A G42 M240i xDrive 8AT will do 60 in 3.8~ seconds.

[Ravenseal]

Originally Posted by M_Power Rob

And??? I own a 23 M240 RWD as well (wife's car) so I know what it can do...but it does not do mid 3 second 0-60s.

The G87 suspension is way different so car will handle the power better.

The BMW X drive is not an allways engaged AWD so I am justbfine with a RWD car.

M240i xDrive will easily do 0-60 in 3.8. You don’t have to take my word for it. Use google.

[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by Ravenseal

M240i xDrive will easily do 0-60 in 3.8. You don’t have to take my word for it. Use google.

Read very closely...I said a G42 M240 RWD (not xdrive). I am also only going to post this once.

[Ravenseal]

Originally Posted by M_Power Rob

Read very closely...I said a G42 M240 RWD (not xdrive). I am also only going to post this once.

My original comment was about the xDrive models. Feel free to re-read it once.

[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by Ravenseal

My original comment was about the xDrive models. Feel free to re-read it once.

And I give you a 🍪.

[Ravenseal]

Originally Posted by M_Power Rob

And I give you a 🍪.

Cool. Thanks.

[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by Ravenseal

Cool. Thanks.

In all seriousness, I have built cars for drag racing and made 100s of passes down Gainesville Raceway. I know about 0-60 times and I also know what is on paper vs real life may not always play out the same.

There are many variables involved in what a car's 0-60 time is. Its not a cut and dry thing for everyone, everywhere and under every circumstance.

[StickyPickle]

M240 Xdrive may edge a G87 w/ automatic in a 0-60 just because of the AWD but would likely get walked by a G87 in the 1/4 or more. G87 would win in a roll.

[Ctothej]

We've had this discussion before lads. From memory, when all cars are in stock, the M240i xDrive has done a 3.6 0-60 and the G87 a 3.67 - so on paper the 240i xDrive wins - now it comes down to the driver, wheels, track etc but they are essentially neck and neck. In the 1/4th and roll, the G87 wins because of the S58. Keep it simple.

[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by Ctothej

We've had this discussion before lads. From memory, when all cars are in stock, the M240i xDrive has done a 3.6 0-60 and the G87 a 3.67 - so on paper the 240i xDrive wins - now it comes down to the driver, wheels, track etc but they are essentially neck and neck. In the 1/4th and roll, the G87 wins because of the S58. Keep it simple.

In addition...other variables that would play a role include driver weight, tires, type of gas, amount of gas in the tank, climate conditions (all as a whole), altitude, type of launch and lets not firget actual driver.

Also keep in mind, not every car will be 100% identical and for paper times, regardless of the car/manufacturer, the posted times are going to be the very best they can get (not necessarily what it will do by everyone on every attempt).