[VegasG42]

Originally Posted by kamendex

That’s not the point, the materials are higher quality. You even have more and better interior lighting. The dashboard has more thought put into it. BMW is cost cutting on interior quality while raising the price.

As long as BMW keeps making the beautiful exteriors , the monster bulletproof and reliable B58, the extremely reliable and responsive transmission , the speed, handling and performance ..... I will be fine with paying a premium.

[donnyfontaine]

Originally Posted by kamendex

That’s not the point, the materials are higher quality. You even have more and better interior lighting. The dashboard has more thought put into it. BMW is cost cutting on interior quality while raising the price.

lowkey you are in the demographic that should be buying a kia then. you obviously like the things they prioritize, so you should buy those since they seem to be a better value to you

[kamendex]

Originally Posted by donnyfontaine

lowkey you are in the demographic that should be buying a kia then. you obviously like the things they prioritize, so you should buy those since they seem to be a better value to you

Oh I didn't know we are heading towards personal attacks. My bad everyone, clearly the 2 series that loses interior parts every year is the epitome of interior excellence. All rival manufacturers that creating great interiors for less money are clearly jealous of Donny Fontaine and German heritage.

My demographic is person willing to spend money on great car.

[donnyfontaine]

Originally Posted by kamendex

Oh I didn't know we are heading towards personal attacks. My bad everyone, clearly the 2 series that loses interior parts every year is the epitome of interior excellence. All rival manufacturers that creating great interiors for less money are clearly jealous of Donny Fontaine and German heritage.

My demographic is person willing to spend money on great car.

imagine thinking that is a personal attack captain philly 😂 youre getting hard for kia's interior and complaining about the money a bmw is for what you get, go buy a kia. you're willing to spend money and want performance and upscale interior? go buy a porsche, go buy a cadillac. since youre the demographic that brings money bags to the table. there are options if you can actually spend. tons of people love bmw for what is and if they lose your business, they won't notice or wouldn't care if they did

[OriginalFake]

Originally Posted by kamendex

That’s not the point, the materials are higher quality. You even have more and better interior lighting. The dashboard has more thought put into it. BMW is cost cutting on interior quality while raising the price.

I can't tell just by looking at it that the materials are any better than my M240i. I really don't have any issue with the interior lighting in it either. And I like the dash in the BMW more than the Kia.

[kamendex]

Originally Posted by donnyfontaine

imagine thinking that is a personal attack captain philly 😂 youre getting hard for kia's interior and complaining about the money a bmw is for what you get, go buy a kia. you're willing to spend money and want performance and upscale interior? go buy a porsche, go buy a cadillac. since youre the demographic that brings money bags to the table. there are options if you can actually spend. tons of people love bmw for what is and if they lose your business, they won't notice or wouldn't care if they did

It is a personal attack, because this thread is not about me, or my preference for KIA. I don't have a preference for KIA, I was simply using them as an example of what interiors can look like at the same price point.

Anyway, done derailing this thread. Too many people here to massage their egos about their purchase rather than talk about what they want/is coming in the LCI.

[BG42]

Originally Posted by kamendex

It is a personal attack, because this thread is not about me, or my preference for KIA. I don't have a preference for KIA, I was simply using them as an example of what interiors can look like at the same price point.

Anyway, done derailing this thread. Too many people here to massage their egos about their purchase rather than talk about what they want/is coming in the LCI.

Seems like you came along to justify the kia purchase. Sorry pal no self respecting car enthusiast is going to drive one. Take it easy though.

[Baldilocks73]

https://g87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=2009615

I started a thread on this some time ago.

[BG42]

Originally Posted by Baldilocks73

https://g87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=2009615

I started a thread on this some time ago.

Yeah long gone are the replies of or did you there are a ton of posts in the wrong places. Forums aren't what they used to be. Now if you want to find info you gotta look everywhere because who knows.

[John Casey]

Originally Posted by kamendex

LCI in 04/25

Does this mean LCI is MY25 or MY26?

Start of production for a MY has been late summer. For example, SOP for MY24 was 8/23. We'd assume SOP for MY25 would be around 8/24. What MY would BMW introduce the LCI with?

[PL4NCK]

Originally Posted by kamendex

I’m saying the way the interior of a KIA is looking better than 2 series these days.

It might look better but it will fade, crack and fall apart in no-time. That’s just what KN produces. It will take a decade of that not happening for the reputation to change imo

[Littlecoupe]

Originally Posted by PL4NCK

It might look better but it will fade, crack and fall apart in no-time. That’s just what KN produces. It will take a decade of that not happening for the reputation to change imo

I have owned / co-owned and driven quite a few Korean vehicles, including a Kia Stinger. The interior styling has always been on par with competitors in my opinion, at least for styling. I never keep my cars long, but my wife's 2013 Santa Fe was really showing its age badly at 9 years and 70K miles. I don't feel it held up as well as a competing Japanese vehicle. I can't comment on how new ones hold up in that department.

What I can subjectively quantify from new, especially on the Stinger which was their "halo car - Audi S5 competitor" is that the chassis is lacking compared to Japanese, or more importantly, German. It lacks the solid feel I've experience in my F22 and G42, and the 2 series is essentially BMW's base model in North America. Going over bumps just have much more solidity and heft (weight aside), whereas I always felt Korean cars felt...floppy, or loose.

I specifically recall my 2012 Sportage SX, it used really tight suspension to make it feel sporty, but the first time I took a corner aggressively, it understeered massively and the suspension hit the bump stops. I'm sure a 2023 is much better, but that vehicle killed SUVs for me, and now I hate them all!

[Kid Red]

Originally Posted by redcars

I hope the screens are better integrated with the dash. Maybe with a hood or cowling to shield from the sun. Can we get a working phone charger, effective cooled seats and the self-driving all other cars are getting? Software has to be a nice revenue stream for BMW.

Style-wise, t's not very promising. The new 5 series looks like a Toyota.

I'm trying to figure out what to do after my G30 540i. I don't care for the new 5 series at all. It's down to m340i or m240i (for that B58) if I stay with BMW.

[kwikit356]

Originally Posted by Kid Red

I'm trying to figure out what to do after my G30 540i. I don't care for the new 5 series at all. It's down to m340i or m240i (for that B58) if I stay with BMW.

They all continue to become bigger in both actual size and feel, so maybe the M340i will be enough for you. And, of course, the price of the car always gets bigger.

[Evilmoretea]

Originally Posted by Kid Red

I'm trying to figure out what to do after my G30 540i. I don't care for the new 5 series at all. It's down to m340i or m240i (for that B58) if I stay with BMW.

340i is a fantastic all round car. If I needed the extra space that’s what I’d go with

[BG42]

Originally Posted by Kid Red

I'm trying to figure out what to do after my G30 540i. I don't care for the new 5 series at all. It's down to m340i or m240i (for that B58) if I stay with BMW.

I fit a rear facing carseat with base in the back of my 240 the front passenger seat becomes kind of unusable but at 5'10" my 5'3" wife fits behind me comfortably. The trunk is a little tight able to fit a nuna demi grow in it as well as a couple of bags. Personally I wasnt ready for 4 door yet although it would probably be easier just not my thing 4 door cars.

[zipstic]

Originally Posted by John Casey

Does this mean LCI is MY25 or MY26?

Start of production for a MY has been late summer. For example, SOP for MY24 was 8/23. We'd assume SOP for MY25 would be around 8/24. What MY would BMW introduce the LCI with?

Good question. I would think it would be a MY26.

[Evilmoretea]

Originally Posted by BG42

I fit a rear facing carseat with base in the back of my 240 the front passenger seat becomes kind of unusable but at 5'10" my 5'3" wife fits behind me comfortably. The trunk is a little tight able to fit a nuna demi grow in it as well as a couple of bags. Personally I wasnt ready for 4 door yet although it would probably be easier just not my thing 4 door cars.

I love that your wife is cool with this 😂

[Baldilocks73]

Originally Posted by zipstic

Good question. I would think it would be a MY26.

Most of the dealerships are saying MY25 for the 2 Series LCI.

[BG42]

Originally Posted by Evilmoretea

I love that your wife is cool with this 😂

She married a car guy haha

[kamendex]

Originally Posted by Baldilocks73

Most of the dealerships are saying MY25 for the 2 Series LCI.

Agreed, details likely will emerge over next summer. That’s why I made this thread actually. Cross shopping this and a Land Cruiser tbh.

[Evilmoretea]

Originally Posted by kamendex

Agreed, details likely will emerge over next summer. That’s why I made this thread actually. Cross shopping this and a Land Cruiser tbh.

That’s uhh quite a comparison of a car!