[ToneM2]

That's a strange looking dyno graph...

[shoe3k]

Originally Posted by Ravenseal

Yeah, I'm at a loss here. I've never heard of any Stage 1 tune giving 200bhp. Those are Stage 2 numbers.

I understand that the majority out there follow similar naming conventions when selling their power upgrades, but it's not defined as some industry standard.

They could be advertising flash + downpipes as stage1. Nothing wrong with that. Is it confusing? Sure. It's just better to list out your mods because labeling some stage can be vague as hell.

[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by shoe3k

I understand that the majority out there follow similar naming conventions when selling their power upgrades, but it's not defined as some industry standard.

They could be advertising flash + downpipes as stage1. Nothing wrong with that. Is it confusing? Sure. It's just better to list out your mods because labeling some stage can be vague as hell.

Sorry but I beg to differ. There are general industry standards

[DrewNewM2]

Coming from the Subbie world, Stage 1 is tune only and no hard parts. Stage 2 is at least Downpipe and tune. Even though different platform, I would never call a set up with downpipes a stage 1.

[danielflacerda]

Originally Posted by Ravenseal

Yeah, I'm at a loss here. I've never heard of any Stage 1 tune giving 200bhp. Those are Stage 2 numbers.

As far as I know, thats a stage 2 tune, but probably a more conservative tune. Here in Brazil we have a few unlocked S58, they usually range from 680-720whp on a E50 Stage 2 Tune, with downpipes and a less restrictive exhaust.

[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by danielflacerda

As far as I know, thats a stage 2 tune, but probably a more conservative tune. Here in Brazil we have a few unlocked S58, they usually range from 680-720whp on a E50 Stage 2 Tune, with downpipes and a less restrictive exhaust.

That sounds about right.

[R44 Performance]

Originally Posted by Novvaa

How safe do you think the tune is? That’s a huge gain and I think everyone knows these engines have a ton of power to tap in to but I have to wonder what sort of loss in longevity you have to endure to hit these numbers.

Hey! We know that when we tune a car we are always putting strain on the vehicle, we have used Tom on all of our cars so far and have not seen any issues! The biggest thing we say is to maintain the vehicle keeping it going for longer!

[R44 Performance]

Originally Posted by Ravenseal

Yeah, I'm at a loss here. I've never heard of any Stage 1 tune giving 200bhp. Those are Stage 2 numbers.

This is 200BHP to the crank, the increase is slightly higher compared to the G80/G82 due to the G87 M2 being detuned from factory.

[R44 Performance]

Originally Posted by Tallest

In the video you say the goal is to open up the engine because they are so "derestrictred". I think you meant "restricted"?

Indeed! Was a long day for Rhys.

[R44 Performance]

Originally Posted by cfm56d7b

Never mind the tune. The color is phenomenal!

Thank you! It definitely stands out.

[R44 Performance]

Originally Posted by cehrl7

There is no way a “stage 1” gained 200 horsepower. All other stage 1 tunes on the S58 gain around 95 horsepower. The intakes are just for show, they won’t gain any power.

Proof is in the pudding really, the car made 478HP at the Crank stock and 674HP at the crank after loading the Stage 1 File, these really are capable and to remember the G87 M2 is detuned compared to the G80 so the increase seems more substantial.

[R44 Performance]

Originally Posted by NSX2M4

At what boost pressure? 40 PSI?
FYI, the car looks pretty hot though.

Hey bud, I would say around the 26 PSI mark.

[R44 Performance]

Originally Posted by Kevin_The_Clean1

There are lots of errors in this video that even a rookie would catch right off the top. No Stage 1 power package adds 200+ HP. And he referred to this G87 M2 platform more then once as the S55, which we all know isn't true. Nice numbers, but there's only so much the stock fuel system & turbo can push. This is certainly a Stage 1.5 or 2 tune. Not a pure Stage 1. But nice try R44 guys. We all know it takes controversy from the start to get those click figures up. So job well done fellas. Mission accomplished...

The Stock fuel and Turbo from our experience does around 720-750HP when tuning to Stage 2 with appropriate hardware, A stage 1 can easily do 670HP on the highest quality pump fuel in the UK, remembering this car has 200 Cell Sports cats, an Eventuri intake and an OPF Back exhaust.

The increase does seem substantial due to the G80/G82 but that is due to the G87 M2 being detuned from factory,

The proof is in the pudding, we have the dyno graph to prove.

Any further questions drop us an email or message, we would love to talk in detail.

[R44 Performance]

Originally Posted by NathObeaN

Respect for keeping the OPFs in and giving us UK/EU folk realistic numbers. That sure is a mad increase

Anytime! Yeah it is crazy to see...

[R44 Performance]

Originally Posted by sigterm2.0

...so of all the things people called you out on about your post/video... That's what you choose to reply to?

Heh... Sort of validating what people are saying, eh? 🤷🏻

Hey mate, apologies, have been very busy! You got any questions for us? Managed to fire some answers over this afternoon.

[R44 Performance]

Originally Posted by shoe3k

I understand that the majority out there follow similar naming conventions when selling their power upgrades, but it's not defined as some industry standard.

They could be advertising flash + downpipes as stage1. Nothing wrong with that. Is it confusing? Sure. It's just better to list out your mods because labeling some stage can be vague as hell.

It’s important to note that the car was running some supporting mods

R44 200 Cell downpipes
Eventuri intake - (Matte)
OPF-back exhaust from Grail

[R44 Performance]

Originally Posted by DrewNewM2

Coming from the Subbie world, Stage 1 is tune only and no hard parts. Stage 2 is at least Downpipe and tune. Even though different platform, I would never call a set up with downpipes a stage 1.

Hey bud, we loaded a Stage 1 "Software" to this car but with Stage 2 hardware, next step is to load the Stage 2 Software and push it to its limits.

[Seattlesquash]

Originally Posted by R44 Performance

Thank you! It is Papaya Orange from Inozetek

Love that color. We have one local RS4 b7 in that color here, and always take a few double takes when I see it!

[shoe3k]

Originally Posted by M_Power Rob

Sorry but I beg to differ. There are general industry standards

Nothing to differ about. There isn't a set industry standard for what we are discussing. I can develop a tune or hardware and call the packages anything I want.

[WhiteRqbbit]

People will argue about the dumbest things... lol