[alphawawa]

I have still yet to see a single new Z on the road, and I live in the Bay Area, which should be Z central. What a collossal failure.

[HC707]

two_three_two
Do you mean the QX30 ? That was a Mercedes /Nissan collaboration built in England which had Mercedes powertrain and chassis. That flopped when Mercedes shut that factory down.

[Rux]

I have owned many Nissans including a couple Red Sports , a QX70s , a Vettel edition FX and a few others in between. I am. not sure where the disconnect happened with nissan. The VQ i thought was great. The VR was a big disappointment tuning wise where the turbos are a huge choke point. The biggest problem was the JATCO auto. A completely useless piece of shit; at least in stock form. I was hopeful for the manual paired with the VR. I don’t know much about the new 9 speed. Seems the platform needs a rework.

[blackfish]

Originally Posted by Ugly Kar

Considering how close the M2 and M240 are there's no doubt about it.

Every Nissan/Infiniti I've tested over the last 15 years has felt like an unrefined pile of metal compared to the German and Cadillac competitors.

Yea from a dig because of awd. Its not close in a roll race, easy win for the m2

[yousefnjr]

Originally Posted by VANOS

The only thing Nissan has going for them is the GTR and even that is old or getting old really quickly. Nissan and Infiniti are just producing shit cars. Feels like they never grew up after 2010, just stuck there.

Getting old lol. R35 came out a couple years after I finished high school, and I’m almost 40 now

[two_three_two]

Originally Posted by alphawawa

I have still yet to see a single new Z on the road, and I live in the Bay Area, which should be Z central. What a collossal failure.

not a failure- an intentional effort on their part to produce basically as few as possible. the car is a love letter to their dealer margins, not their enthusiast customers. its a real shame- at 40-50k with a 6 cyl and a 6 speed, it would basically be a class of one- like the M2.

[two_three_two]

Originally Posted by HC707

two_three_two
Do you mean the QX30 ? That was a Mercedes /Nissan collaboration built in England which had Mercedes powertrain and chassis. That flopped when Mercedes shut that factory down.

it was a QX60. i had to look it up. i usually remember every car people own, so for it to be this forgettable says a lot to me.

[digital]

How is the Q50 Red 400? I had an G37 before and enjoyed it, am thinking of getting one for my wife.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by alphawawa

I have still yet to see a single new Z on the road, and I live in the Bay Area, which should be Z central. What a collossal failure.

I’ve only seen a handful here in So.Cal, which is surprising.

I fell for the Nissan hype in 2004. I traded my 2003 E46 ///M3 for a 2004 G35. I regretted that purchase within months despite mods (…e.g. Hotchkis sways, front grille mod, a drop, etc.). Thankfully that car was stolen and I was back in a 2005 ZCP E46 ///M3 shortly thereafter. I told myself I wasn’t leaving BMW again unless it was for a Porsche.


…..and I kept that promise to myself.

[DO_e90]

Who in their right mind would spend $60k+ on a Z when you could have the M2??

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

I’ve only seen a handful here in So.Cal, which is surprising.

I fell for the Nissan hype in 2004. I traded my 2003 E46 ///M3 for a 2004 G35. I regretted that purchase within months despite mods (…e.g. Hotchkis sways, front grille mod, a drop, etc.). Thankfully that car was stolen and I was back in a 2005 ZCP E46 ///M3 shortly thereafter. I told myself I wasn’t leaving BMW again unless it was for a Porsche.


…..and I kept that promise to myself.

And what a stunner she is …

Nicely done ❕

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by DO_e90

Who in their right mind would spend $60k+ on a Z when you could have the M2??

An unsuspecting idiot who happens to bump into a really good salesperson

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by ///M TOWN

And what a stunner she is …

Nicely done ❕

Thanks bro!

Originally Posted by ///M TOWN

An unsuspecting idiot who happens to bump into a really good salesman

Yep! Or in my case, I wanted to hook up with the Asian sales gal. She had moved from BMW to Infiniti and buying that G35 was shootin’ my shot. The things we do for a lil’ taco.

[M4Tejas]

Originally Posted by HC707

Nissan used to be great! I had a 82 200SX (college car), several Maximas (the 2010 being the worst, and my 99 Maxima SE 5 spd being the best. I then had a 2003 FX45, 2006 M45, 2011 FX50 and my last Nissan product was a 2016 QX80.
They have definitely gone down hill which is unfortunate and I highly doubt they will be back to their full potential.

4DSC 92 Maxima was the shizzle.....

4-Door Sports Car

[G MONEY]

Originally Posted by M2siast

And they still charge Porsche Turbo S money for it…

Lol!!! What!!!? GTR 2023 116 ish MSRP
Turbo S 2024. 230 MSRP

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by M2siast

And they still charge Porsche Turbo S money for it…

More like base 992 Carrera money.

[Bumpinjeep]

Originally Posted by G MONEY

Lol!!! What!!!? GTR 2023 116 ish MSRP
Turbo S 2024. 230 MSRP

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by Bumpinjeep

I don’t think he specified the NISMO. That’s you adding more to his statement.

[DrewNewM2]

Originally Posted by M2siast

And they still charge Porsche Turbo S money for it…

Crazy it was only $70k MSRP when they came out…a regular man’s Super car. Always wanted one but I couldn’t afford one back then and now MSRP is almost double that! I think if they offered the R35 with a manual, I would have found a way to get one.

[BroDoze]

Originally Posted by DrewNewM2

Crazy it was only $70k MSRP when they came out…a regular man’s Super car. Always wanted one but I couldn’t afford one back then and now MSRP is almost double that! I think if they offered the R35 with a manual, I would have found a way to get one.

Same. I spent a lot of time drooling at the Nissan dealer back in the $70-$90 MSRP days…

Now? Forget it. And the used ones are usually fairly trashed with expensive maintenance waiting…

I’ve driven so many, I’d be just fine with the auto. Lots of seat time in GTRs.

If the M2 had a DCT, it could be a true GTR alternative. It would forever lack a bit of that GTR cool factor. Makes up for it in other ways.

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Yep! Or in my case, I wanted to hook up with the Asian sales gal.
She had moved from BMW to Infiniti and buying that G35 was shootin’ my shot. The things we do for a lil’ taco.

All you needed was some asian persuasion

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by BroDoze

Same. I spent a lot of time drooling at the Nissan dealer back in the $70-$90 MSRP days…

Now? Forget it. And the used ones are usually fairly trashed with expensive maintenance waiting…

I’ve driven so many, I’d be just fine with the auto. Lots of seat time in GTRs.

If the M2 had a DCT, it could be a true GTR alternative. It would forever lack a bit of that GTR cool factor. Makes up for it in other ways.

M2 now weighs as much as the GTR, go figure