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      10-17-2024, 04:18 PM   #23
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Former 2015 991.1 owner and now frozen grey M2. 991.1 just did not have enough torque for me, low end was low. I didn’t want to drive it to add more miles, lose value and fear of mangling it.

M2 torque and power is intoxicating, sound is outrageous and the engine is addictively powerful. I am really starting to gain confidence in the corners which takes some time in my experience. Like some have said the M2 is a muscle car, it is small however not that small. Talk about small, I ended up buying an 85.5 944 that is mechanically clean and have given some TLC. Still needs some bits, however mechanics have told me I got a good clean one, knock on wood. Cornering is ridiculously nice, however no torque to speak of which is fine. Wind it up to 3K RPM and watch out twisties as it conquers them with ease and confidence. If I want to scream I get in the M2. To each his own, however I would go M2 all day to drive it. Maybe look at a project P car for that fix. I completely understand.
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      10-17-2024, 06:10 PM   #24
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I’m in a massive dilemma. Can pick up a low mileage 991.1 S manual for the price of a brand new M2. Does the specialness of the Porsche justify passing on a brand new M2 with the latest tech, warranty etc? I saw the thread on here comparing to a 991.2 but the .2 with low miles (under 30K) are going for loaded G82 prices. This won’t be a daily driver - max 5K miles a year. Anyone owned both? Thanks.
991.1 (or 991.2) does not drive better than a Cayman and not even close to a Cayman GTS 4.0. Now remember MT couple of months back declared M2 a winner over even C-GTS 4.0. So you should deduct your answer from this.

I drive a C-GTS 4.0 daily (along with an ARG-Quad) and had an itch for a 911. I test drove 991.2, 992 and M2. Money was no issue. 991.2 was better than 992 in driving feel but it was still an old car. I picked up a new GTS 4.0 and will be getting an M2 early next year.

Why put up with an old car? Just for bragging rights of owing a 911? Get a new car, get an M2. If you have to get a Porsche within your budget, consider a Cayman for a proper sports car and still a comfortable road ride.
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      10-19-2024, 11:42 PM   #25
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991's tend to be pretty reliable but you need to put aside a little $$ just in case. If you are more a turbo guy than NA, the 991.2 is an amazing car. Had a 991.2 GTS for a few years and was one of the best daily-able performance cars I've ever owned. Had absolutely 0 issues in the 30k miles I owned it.

Handling wise, it's not even close. The 991 will kill the M2. Not only that, but it weighs about 700lbs less. It's a much more rewarding car.

Best advice still is to drive both and make the choice for yourself.
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      10-20-2024, 11:26 AM   #26
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991's tend to be pretty reliable but you need to put aside a little $$ just in case. If you are more a turbo guy than NA, the 991.2 is an amazing car. Had a 991.2 GTS for a few years and was one of the best daily-able performance cars I've ever owned. Had absolutely 0 issues in the 30k miles I owned it.

Handling wise, it's not even close. The 991 will kill the M2. Not only that, but it weighs about 700lbs less. It's a much more rewarding car.

Best advice still is to drive both and make the choice for yourself.
I love the 991.2…great car and looks amazing.
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I view it this way.

When you buy a used car (not CPO) you are buying someone else's problems.

Most of those problems will not be disclosed, so have a repair fund when you buy a used car.

Buying a used performance car is even more of that.
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My brother recently bought a 991.1 S.
It's a great car, and stronger than the numbers suggest, specialy in higher revs. The car is very low compared to the M2 and sounds great. Looks great too.
But... the interior is good but nothing too special. Even if the(911) car is low, in the M2 you seat lower relative to the dash. To me, the M2 experience is more special, the turbo engine makes the 911 almost feel slow, the interior is more inviting and much more modern. Handling wise, people often says the 911 kills the M2 but it's not like that, the front feels too light, the M2 is more precise and neutral than it appears to be.
Even my brother recognizes that the Porsche simply don't feel as special as the price of entry would sugest.
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      10-30-2024, 01:07 AM   #29
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My brother recently bought a 991.1 S.
It's a great car, and stronger than the numbers suggest, specialy in higher revs. The car is very low compared to the M2 and sounds great. Looks great too.
But... the interior is good but nothing too special. Even if the(911) car is low, in the M2 you seat lower relative to the dash. To me, the M2 experience is more special, the turbo engine makes the 911 almost feel slow, the interior is more inviting and much more modern. Handling wise, people often says the 911 kills the M2 but it's not like that, the front feels too light, the M2 is more precise and neutral than it appears to be.
Even my brother recognizes that the Porsche simply don't feel as special as the price of entry would sugest.
A few contrarian viewpoints:
- The dash is higher in the M2, but you sit lower to the ground in the 991.
- The 5 gauge dash is classic. Plastic dashes don’t belong in the 911, sorry if you’re brother got one. It can really cheapen the feel. The rest of the interior has aged very well and will continue to.
- The front of the 911 being light means it reacts way faster to steering inputs. It responds well to trail braking on corner entry, that will help it bite. At high speed, it can get a little floaty. Check your alignment if it feels unsafe.
- Agree the M2 is more neutral. It’s also precise, but the 991 gives me more confidence in what the car is doing as it has a better feel/feedback.
- Doesn’t feel as special, hmm. I could see how one would say that, but I wholeheartedly disagree. There’s a sophistication to the 991 and subtle pleasures like the rear of the cars weight shifting as you link turns, or how it digs down as you hit the power early out of an apex that you don’t get from the M2. Instead with the M2 you get a rowdy brute that drifts on command and turbos that throw you back in the seat. There’s nothing wrong with either, but the 991 is worth getting to know a little better.
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