[Bumpinjeep]

Originally Posted by Joker96

I'm receiving $400-500 monthly insurance quotes for an M2

That can't possibly be right unless you had like multiple speeding tickets and car accidents or something that would drive that cost up. It shouldn't be more than $150 or so to insure this car.

[aerobod]

Originally Posted by two_three_two

i feel that lately, more than ever, maintenance recommendations from factory have 2 specific goals- lower the cost of covered maintenance for the OEM, and ensure the car makes it through the initial lease period (BMW lease rates are only going up and make up 70%+ of BMW purchases) without costing the OEM additional money. after that, they dont really give a shit if your S58 makes it to 60k miles or 260k miles...

The BMW oil change interval is shorter in North America where the cost is covered by BMW, compared with Europe where it isn’t. The standard European change interval is 2 years and a CBS distance of around 27,000km (17,000 miles) compared with 16,000km (10,000 miles) and 1 year in Canada and the US. This long change interval for BMWs in Europe has been the case for over 20 years now.

BMW is the norm with these longer intervals. Porsche is similar, too.

Plenty of high speed use on the Autobahn without any trend in engine problems with the BMW specified oil and change intervals over the years.

[Carefree]

Originally Posted by Bumpinjeep

That can't possibly be right unless you had like multiple speeding tickets and car accidents or something that would drive that cost up. It shouldn't be more than $150 or so to insure this car.

1 or 2 DUI would certainly elevate the premium. (hiccup)

[JMcLellan]

Originally Posted by Bumpinjeep

That can't possibly be right unless you had like multiple speeding tickets and car accidents or something that would drive that cost up. It shouldn't be more than $150 or so to insure this car.

I don't know, good insurance coverage is pretty expensive these days. Especially with the high cost of repair and replacement with these cars. I'm 43 years old, clean driving record, great credit, and my car is listed as "leisure driving" or whatever the lowest mileage setting is and my premium is still $185/month bundled with my homeowners policy. I think I could get closer to 150 or so a month with a cut-rate coverage plan which I don't want.

But for sure the OP's quote is really high for some reasons not disclosed.

[two_three_two]

Originally Posted by aerobod

The BMW oil change interval is shorter in North America where the cost is covered by BMW, compared with Europe where it isn’t. The standard European change interval is 2 years and a CBS distance of around 27,000km (17,000 miles) compared with 16,000km (10,000 miles) and 1 year in Canada and the US. This long change interval for BMWs in Europe has been the case for over 20 years now.

BMW is the norm with these longer intervals. Porsche is similar, too.

Plenty of high speed use on the Autobahn without any trend in engine problems with the BMW specified oil and change intervals over the years.

good info, thanks. assuming they spec the same oil as US market?

[aerobod]

Originally Posted by two_three_two

good info, thanks. assuming they spec the same oil as US market?

The same oils and part numbers are available, although BMW in the EU tend to specify the 0w30 oil that is only used in diesels in North America in the G8x S58s (83212365951), with the 83212365950 0w30 oil normally specified for gasoline engines.

[DSTR]

Originally Posted by aerobod

The BMW oil change interval is shorter in North America where the cost is covered by BMW, compared with Europe where it isn’t. The standard European change interval is 2 years and a CBS distance of around 27,000km (17,000 miles) compared with 16,000km (10,000 miles) and 1 year in Canada and the US. This long change interval for BMWs in Europe has been the case for over 20 years now.

BMW is the norm with these longer intervals. Porsche is similar, too.

Plenty of high speed use on the Autobahn without any trend in engine problems with the BMW specified oil and change intervals over the years.

Its 2 years/30,000km here in Germany. I will be changing at the next winter tires application - so about 18 months. A few months early. Modern oils are able to sustain this. Too many people waste money on early oil changes, especially those not tracking in a significant way.

[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by Bumpinjeep

That can't possibly be right unless you had like multiple speeding tickets and car accidents or something that would drive that cost up. It shouldn't be more than $150 or so to insure this car.

Try moving to South Florida and let me know what it does to your insurance premium.

[Bumpinjeep]

Originally Posted by M_Power Rob

Try moving to South Florida and let me know what it does to your insurance premium.

Dude, there's still no way a G87 is $500 a month to insure, unless you're hammered, driving by brail every night. My insurance doubled to like $160 recently and I think that's way too expensive. I shopped around and found that State Farm can cut it down to less than $100 a month. I'm with All State currently.

[JABCAT]

Originally Posted by Bumpinjeep

Dude, there's still no way a G87 is $500 a month to insure, unless you're hammered, driving by brail every night. My insurance doubled to like $160 recently and I think that's way too expensive. I shopped around and found that State Farm can cut it down to less than $100 a month. I'm with All State currently.

Fyi my premium with State Farm increased 40% over my last 2 renewals after being 1/2 of what my Allstate premium was. I fully expect my premium to increase again at my July renewal. Clean driving records, A+ credit, 3 vehicles plus home insured with them.

[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by Bumpinjeep

Dude, there's still no way a G87 is $500 a month to insure, unless you're hammered, driving by brail every night. My insurance doubled to like $160 recently and I think that's way too expensive. I shopped around and found that State Farm can cut it down to less than $100 a month. I'm with All State currently.

I am just under $6k annually for both the MY23 M240 and MY23 G87. That is switching from Travelers that went from just iver $6k to over $9k for my March renewall.

[Joker96]

Originally Posted by Ravenseal

If you think quality brakes are unnecessary on a 500hp sports car, maybe walk.

5k though?

[Joker96]

Originally Posted by M_Power Rob

That doesn't sound right. I would shop carriers, or better yet, a different agent.

How much were you going to put down to get psyments near $400 - $500/month?

35-40k....I would put atleast 50% down. Im not paying 1k+ on a monthly payment.

Thats just what the insurance is the car in my area. Im 27 , I had a lapse in coverage due to negligence from a previous agent so thats contributing to it some. It might drop down a bit after I've had coverage for 6 months. I was quoted $330 for a M240I.

[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by Joker96

5k though?

Where do you get $5k? Its $2,600 for fronts and rears ($1,300 x2).

[Joker96]

Originally Posted by Bumpinjeep

That can't possibly be right unless you had like multiple speeding tickets and car accidents or something that would drive that cost up. It shouldn't be more than $150 or so to insure this car.

You must be over the age of 35 and in a low claim rate area. My 2018 mustang ecoboost was $140 a month back in 2019. I've never been in an accident and my last speeding ticket was in 2020.

I'm 27, thats just want the insurance is going to cost. I had a coverage lapse thats causing issues but the insurance is going to be high regardless. Its not going to be under $300.

I canceled my deposit because I'm having issues finding affordable coverage or a company to cover me due to the lapse.....I'll have to try to buy in July /August

[Joker96]

Originally Posted by Bumpinjeep

Dude, there's still no way a G87 is $500 a month to insure, unless you're hammered, driving by brail every night. My insurance doubled to like $160 recently and I think that's way too expensive. I shopped around and found that State Farm can cut it down to less than $100 a month. I'm with All State currently.

You do know insurance premiums have increased 20% yearly for the past 3 years right ?

If you're paying $160, you must be in your late 30s/40s and in a low claim rate area. I was paying $140 for a 4 cylinder mustang in 2019.

Any car thats not a honda is a Lamborghini to an insurance company.

[Joker96]

Originally Posted by M_Power Rob

Where do you get $5k? Its $2,600 for fronts and rears ($1,300 x2).

The guy that posted $1,300 rotors on page one.

[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by Joker96

The guy that posted $1,300 rotors on page one.

That would be ME. I posted the link to Girodisc and you came back with not spending $5k. I woll adk again, where do you get $5k (link again below to refresh your memory)?

https://girodisc.com/finder/?pfresul...All&f_axle=All

[Joker96]

Originally Posted by M_Power Rob

That would be ME. I posted the link to Girodisc and you came back with not spending $5k. I woll adk again, where do you get $5k (link again below to refresh your memory)?

https://girodisc.com/finder/?pfresul...All&f_axle=All

I misread rotors as rotor, if its 2 then its not bad.

[Tag]

Originally Posted by BroDoze

Don't forget batteries, lol. I was refused by BMW TWICE when I had a battery fail in my 135i due to "low mileage". Despite me driving it every day with my short commute, I had to buy TWO new batteries out of pocket in those first 4 years of ownership.
"You don't drive this enough." "I drive it every freaking day as my daily." "Your mileage is too low." "GFY Y MFs!"

I was putting on about 5,000 miles/yr and they said in order for BMW to honor the battery warranty, they needed to see 6,000mi/yr minimum. Bastards.

LOL!!!

Using a battery tender will extend the life of your battery and pay for itself.

[two_three_two]

Originally Posted by Joker96

You do know insurance premiums have increased 20% yearly for the past 3 years right ?

If you're paying $160, you must be in your late 30s/40s and in a low claim rate area. I was paying $140 for a 4 cylinder mustang in 2019.

Any car thats not a honda is a Lamborghini to an insurance company.

don't take this the wrong way, but you are 27, with a ticket, and a lapse in coverage. you are not exactly a super low risk demo with a brand new M2.

[Joker96]

Originally Posted by two_three_two

don't take this the wrong way, but you are 27, with a ticket, and a lapse in coverage. you are not exactly a super low risk demo with a brand new M2.

if being lucky to see 27, a speeding ticket from 4 years ago, and a 30 day lapse in coverage due to selling the car the policy covered.

Yes, I can see how being alive makes me high risk