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      02-24-2025, 10:35 AM   #45
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After tons of VAGS, I look forward to a new brand. I rate the 25 RS3 5 out of 5 Ricks.
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It's really funny how you can see people on the BMW forums from the Golf/Audi forums. I "know" at least 5 members here from prior cars we owned at the same time frames.
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      02-24-2025, 11:06 AM   #46
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It's really funny how you can see people on the BMW forums from the Golf/Audi forums. I "know" at least 5 members here from prior cars we owned at the same time frames.
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      02-24-2025, 11:10 AM   #47
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After tons of VAGS, I look forward to a new brand. I rate the 25 RS3 5 out of 5 Ricks.
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      02-24-2025, 11:21 AM   #48
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After tons of VAGS, I look forward to a new brand. I rate the 25 RS3 5 out of 5 Ricks.
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RS3 is a nice car…in my opinion anyway
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      02-24-2025, 11:24 AM   #49
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And Chris Harris (as already mentioned) and the Smoking Tyre. People who i respect as reviewers and know what they are talking about tend to rate the M2. Throttle House must have been having a bad day when they initially reviewed the M2 - their subsequent review of the auto (when they had it against the RS3) was much better (I still don't agree with their conclusion but they did walk back their criticism of the M2 somewhat).
Thomas owned an F87 M2, and the G87 is not the same formula. So he’s overly cynical.

This is classic hating on the new one because you own and loved the old one.
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      02-24-2025, 11:42 AM   #50
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RS3 is a nice car…in my opinion anyway
It absolutely is, as long as you don't need a manual. That 5-cyl rips!

TBH, there are very very few cars that I think are "bad."

Really, IMO, the only car that lacks a reason to exist is the Nissan Z. It's basically a 20 year old powertrain with a new coat of paint, and it costs too much for what it is. As a Z lover for many decades, it saddens me that Nissan is basically falling apart now.
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Really, IMO, the only car that lacks a reason to exist is the Nissan Z. It's basically a 20 year old powertrain with a new coat of paint, and it costs too much for what it is. As a Z lover for many decades, it saddens me that Nissan is basically falling apart now.
It is really sad, their merger negotiations with Honda blew up and is now dead. Their credit rating was recently downgraded to junk. They're now scrambling and tossing around all types of ideas to stay afloat. Not a good sign.
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      02-24-2025, 03:10 PM   #52
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It absolutely is, as long as you don't need a manual. That 5-cyl rips!

TBH, there are very very few cars that I think are "bad."

Really, IMO, the only car that lacks a reason to exist is the Nissan Z. It's basically a 20 year old powertrain with a new coat of paint, and it costs too much for what it is. As a Z lover for many decades, it saddens me that Nissan is basically falling apart now.
The Z’s interior is still looking old. Newer materials but same design.
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Was the straight pipes 25 review on winter run flats? Could that account for the harsher ride?
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Was the straight pipes 25 review on winter run flats? Could that account for the harsher ride?
BMW Canada doesn’t have a winter runflat fit for the G87, conventional winter tyres only. Can’t see a press vehicle being fitted with something BMW doesn’t have available. Who knows what tyre pressure they were using, though.
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One of the worst reviewers on youtube....they note the mediocre/"rubbery" manual trans though

ZF all the way in these cars
Just say your dad never taught you how to drive manual.

An automatic when you’re a true car fan is never the answer. I would take the shittiest manual in the world over just sitting there like an idiot simply pressing my foot down on the gas and thinking I’m doing a good job or anything impressive.

Plus your acting like SSK’s don’t exist.
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Just say your dad never taught you how to drive manual.

An automatic when you’re a true car fan is never the answer. I would take the shittiest manual in the world over just sitting there like an idiot simply pressing my foot down on the gas and thinking I’m doing a good job or anything impressive.

Plus your acting like SSK’s don’t exist.


One of the stupidest posts I’ve read in a while.

Only a “true can fan” drives a manual?

Continue “impressing” yourself as you row your gears. Hopefully you’re impressed with yourself with every single motion. You should record yourself so you can continue to be impressed even when you’re not driving.

Truly impressive.
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      03-02-2025, 06:37 AM   #57
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Just say your dad never taught you how to drive manual.

An automatic when you’re a true car fan is never the answer. I would take the shittiest manual in the world over just sitting there like an idiot simply pressing my foot down on the gas and thinking I’m doing a good job or anything impressive.

Plus your acting like SSK’s don’t exist.
I don’t really care what a “true car fan” is. What I care about is only one thing: lap times. The joy of driving for me is going fast and railing corners.

Do you think you will post better lap times with the manual or the automatic? With rwd or xdrive? With the obnoxiously loud exhaust or with the stock exhaust? The chrono will be the truth teller of who is an actual fan and enjoys driving or those that like to pretend.
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Just say your dad never taught you how to drive manual.

An automatic when you’re a true car fan is never the answer. I would take the shittiest manual in the world over just sitting there like an idiot simply pressing my foot down on the gas and thinking I’m doing a good job or anything impressive.

Plus your acting like SSK’s don’t exist.
I’m a “true car” fan and I ordered an auto. You, just like your post, are ignorant…grow up.

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Wow had no idea there was a manual vs auto fight around here lol. I originally joined because I was buying an M240i but things happened and now I'm getting the M2. Did not see this over there (for obvious reasons)

Maybe we need a new rule. Along with no political talk, no manual/auto talk

Obviously I'm joking. Enjoy whatever you bought.
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Wow had no idea there was a manual vs auto fight around here lol. I originally joined because I was buying an M240i but things happened and now I'm getting the M2. Did not see this over there (for obvious reasons)

Maybe we need a new rule. Along with no political talk, no manual/auto talk

Obviously I'm joking. Enjoy whatever you bought.
Man, I will tell you…the M240 is tempting. I think it looks nice, is obviously fast, I like that it has drive, and I think it looks nice. Also nothing wrong with saving some money. What happened to your possible 240?
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Man, I will tell you…the M240 is tempting. I think it looks nice, is obviously fast, I like that it has drive, and I think it looks nice. Also nothing wrong with saving some money. What happened to your possible 240?
Really I always wanted the M2 but didn't have the money at the time so figured why not grab it's cousin M240i. Few years past, needed to prioritize moving first, then found the money for the M2.

I would easily go back to the M240i if there are tariff issues. However, that is assembled in Mexico as well, so no dice there.

Not sure what my backup would be. Maybe just wait and save up for something else like Porsche. Originally my backup was the Corvette C8 but the wife absolutely hates how low it is - getting in/out.
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I have zero issues with the MT. The gearing is a little tall once you get out of 1st gear but I still would rather have this MT than the 8ZF. I won't denegrate anyone who chose the ZF tranny. If its what you wanted great. The fact that you can still get a choice of a transmission in this class of a vehicle is a blessing.
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I feel a much better review than those clowns.

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And Chris Harris (as already mentioned) and the Smoking Tyre. People who i respect as reviewers and know what they are talking about tend to rate the M2. Throttle House must have been having a bad day when they initially reviewed the M2 - their subsequent review of the auto (when they had it against the RS3) was much better (I still don't agree with their conclusion but they did walk back their criticism of the M2 somewhat).
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I feel a much better review than those clowns.

Sean did a great job. Went into a lot of details, had to cut a third of it still but he knows his stuff even though he's not a seasoned reviewer. Yet.
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Just say your dad never taught you how to drive manual.

An automatic when you’re a true car fan is never the answer. I would take the shittiest manual in the world over just sitting there like an idiot simply pressing my foot down on the gas and thinking I’m doing a good job or anything impressive.

Plus your acting like SSK’s don’t exist.
There are a few cars I’d never own with an auto trans. Miata, Exige, S2000, basically any small, low hp lightweight car. I think the Alfa 4C is an interesting auto trans outlier that I’d happily own. Same for the VAGS.
But a 3800lb 500hp muscle car, I’m going paddles.
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