[Kayger12]

Put me squarely in camp "glad I didn't wait."

Voodoo would have had me second guessing. Absent that, Toronto would still be my choice with this color lineup.

[Mako]

I miss the days of unique M colors for specific models or just for pure M cars

[koopa]

I love Portimao Blue, but Voodoo Blue would have been better.

[Ronin76]

Originally Posted by adc

I guess I’m the only idiot who would go for the Sao Paulo Yellow…

this one made me laugh. To be honest, I thought about. Was hoping for a purple...oh well.

[Joker96]

Originally Posted by Ravenseal

Custom interior colors with upgraded leather surfaces aren't "basic features". Your expectations for a 2 series are way off mark.

Its an " M " car and it cost 63k, its in the highest teir of their product line. a carbon fiber roof ( does nothing for saftey) that cost almost 3k is available but a front camera and interior colors other than black is asking to much for 60-70 grand ?

A lower trim 2 series has some of the options I explained but the more expensive one doesn't ?

I like the car its just doesn't make sense to me how thats asking too much.

[Carefree]

Originally Posted by adc

I guess I’m the only idiot who would go for the Sao Paulo Yellow…

I would consider it.
Signed,
Idiot #2

[Joker96]

Originally Posted by Ronin76

I mean Porsche does not have 360 view camera either. You have to pay extra for that so I am not surprised that it is not offered on a BMW.

I'll pay for it...just let me have the option to have it.

[Ravenseal]

Originally Posted by Joker96

Its an " M " car and it cost 63k, its in the highest teir of their product line. a carbon fiber roof ( does nothing for saftey) that cost almost 3k is available but a front camera and interior colors other than black is asking to much for 60-70 grand ?

A lower trim 2 series has some of the options I explained but the more expensive one doesn't ?

I like the car its just doesn't make sense to me how thats asking too much.

An M2 is not the highest tier of any M car. Lol. Not even top 5 in cost for BMWs. Even a base X5 is more money than an M2. And the M8 Comp goes to 170k.

[two_three_two]

Originally Posted by Joker96

Its an " M " car and it cost 63k, its in the highest teir of their product line. a carbon fiber roof ( does nothing for saftey) that cost almost 3k is available but a front camera and interior colors other than black is asking to much for 60-70 grand ?

A lower trim 2 series has some of the options I explained but the more expensive one doesn't ?

I like the car its just doesn't make sense to me how thats asking too much.

Polo08816 should have the exact number but an S58 runs in the 35k ballpark. you are paying for the M motor, M chassis, M driving experience... and thats it, really. some niceties are included because BMW. if thats not where you want to put your money, park it somewhere else. maybe a nice lexus will have all the features you want?

[Ronin76]

Originally Posted by Joker96

I'll pay for it...just let me have the option to have it.

Not trying to be a jerk but did you look into anything about the M2 before putting an order in? Or have you put an order in?

I ask because $60k to $70k is a lot of money and to put that kind of money down on anything without knowing anything about it is rather questionable thinking.

[Ronin76]

Originally Posted by two_three_two

Polo08816 should have the exact number but an S58 runs in the 35k ballpark. you are paying for the M motor, M chassis, M driving experience... and thats it, really. some niceties are included because BMW. if thats not where you want to put your money, park it somewhere else. maybe a nice lexus will have all the features you want?

Lexus RC 350. Its a coupe, has a lot of the things he wants, and in the price range he is paying for an M2...heck might even be cheaper.

[Joker96]

Originally Posted by two_three_two

i dont think an M2 is for you based off your comment chain. surprised you placed an order with this little amount of research done.

I did plenty of research, I didnt design the car and I haven't owned a BMW so I don't know every detail.

I was debating between a used C8 , Supra , used 8 series, 240i, M2, 440i, used Audi RS5, Mercedes E class / CLE.

They all have things that I like and dont like ( Supra and C8 don't have ambient lighting for example)

I picked the M2 because I thought it was the best bang for buck. A almost fully optioned new M2 is around the same price of a used fairly option C8 for example. The CLE is 60-70k for a 263HP 4 cylinder....

Im done ranting now, I was just disappointed.

[two_three_two]

Originally Posted by Ronin76

Lexus RC 350. Its a coupe, has a lot of the things he wants, and in the price range he is paying for an M2...heck might even be cheaper.

i was thinking an IS500 or used RC F, but yeah. the IS500 is a compelling package at the price if you can get over the weird ergos and the lackluster transmission. RC F is better than people give it credit for, its just not an M4 competitor in anything but price.

[two_three_two]

Originally Posted by Joker96

I did plenty of research, I didnt design the car and I haven't owned a BMW so I don't know every detail.

I was debating between a used C8 , Supra , used 8 series, 240i, M2, 440i, used Audi RS5, Mercedes E class / CLE.

They all have things that I like and dont like ( Supra and C8 don't have ambient lighting for example)

I picked the M2 because I thought it was the best bang for buck. A almost fully optioned new M2 is around the same price of a used fairly option C8 for example. The CLE is 60-70k for a 263HP 4 cylinder....

Im done ranting now, I was just disappointed.

it IS the best bang for your buck if you love to drive. but these are basic points you could pick up from scanning the spec sheet on the website. it sounds like you are way more hung up on minor features (who gives a shit about ambient lighting?) and details than how the car will perform/driving experience. this is my first BMW as well.

[koopa]

Originally Posted by Joker96

Its an " M " car and it cost 63k, its in the highest teir of their product line. a carbon fiber roof ( does nothing for saftey) that cost almost 3k is available but a front camera and interior colors other than black is asking to much for 60-70 grand ?

A lower trim 2 series has some of the options I explained but the more expensive one doesn't ?

I like the car its just doesn't make sense to me how thats asking too much.

I feel like everyone is misinterpreting this.

The M2 is the highest tier of the 2 series and it doesn't have the options lesser 2 series cars have. The M3 and M4 don't work this way, but the M2 does.

I think it's stupid too but with what you get for the money with the M2, I'm sure this is just BMW's way to differentiate the M2 and M4 otherwise the M4 would be a bad value. If you had a full merino option and ventilated seats in the M2, what purpose does the M4 serve? Roomier backseats for an extra $30K?

You never know, they could add some features back in. I think the leather quality differences are fine. BMW doesn't give you good options in the Z4 either. The only option I wish the M2 had was surround view. Well, that and xDrive which it might be getting in a few years anyway (and if that happens I'll be putting my order in).

[Ronin76]

Originally Posted by two_three_two

i was thinking an IS500 or used RC F, but yeah. the IS500 is a compelling package at the price if you can get over the weird ergos and the lackluster transmission. RC F is better than people give it credit for, its just not an M4 competitor in anything but price.

Yeah, I like coupes so the IS500 would not be for me. I agree with the RC F but new that can get up to $100k. Seemed like Joker is looking at the $60 to $70k mark. Also agree that it is a very nice car. The interior is really nice but, yeah, not at the M4 level when it comes to performance...too heavy.


edit:

I missed the "used" RC F. Yeah if he could find one in his price point used (CPO preferred) that would work for him.

[wetburbles]

Originally Posted by AdnanH35

So Toronto red with cognac interiors will be somewhat rare �� glad I didn’t wait for a 25 because TR was my favorite offered color

Ohh..??

[MUFCbmwbear]

Id prefer Skyscraper but glad I got the Cognac on my 24

[Bimmerfun82]

Could they not branch out and try a different blue and grey? But this is good news that there are more options!

[WedgeSalad]

Was really hoping for Isle of man Green, that would have been sweet

[JustChris]

Originally Posted by Alpine*

And here’s me thinking my car looked boxy.

G87 Minecraft Edition

[Germanauto]

Finally they added a proper blue

Zandvoort sucks