[Emme2]

Originally Posted by V-Eight

ok the right car with a manual gerabox to buy to put in the garage "before it's too late" as electric cars are coming....

That car is the F87. More raw dynamics, less restricted (last S55 are locked), less digital (instruments), more carbon (instead of metal engine strut brace or faux luxe interior of the G8x), smaller and lighter (particulate filters mandatory).

[Emme2]

Originally Posted by elliswyatt

Adaptive suspension would be nice.

Why? Some F87 CS owners are throwing that away. Added weight and complexity with future legacy dramas (hence why many of these cars are converted to good old hydraulic systems).

[doccyber]

Whatever happened to analog displays? Why do we need such big screens?

[NewDirection]

Originally Posted by stein_325i

BMW is axing the Z4 and 2er convertible, your best hope is for a M4 Vert (not sure if its been confirmed for a manual), otherwise pretty much only Porsche, Mazda, Ford, and Chevy will have alternatives.

Damn, okay thanks

[manuelf]

Originally Posted by rainfall

20" rear wheels... why? This is supposed to be a small and fun car

???
Is the Porsche 911 a large or small car. I think a G87 M2 might even be a bit bigger.
What's the wheel size of the 992 911? Back 21", front 20".
So, why do you think, that 20/19 is too large?
It's all about driving dynamics.

[JustinHEMI]

Originally Posted by Chamberlin

Green over tan 6 speed, c'mon BMW... Don't mess this up.

God yes!

A piece of me wants to "cash in" my F87 now while prices are high to prepare for G87. Another piece wants to have both. Would hate to move it along and then be disappointed in G87.

[W///]

Originally Posted by Kevin_The_Clean1

Where are the spy photos of this new M2... ?

I keep looking for them & can't seem to find them.

https://g80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1776584

[W///]

Originally Posted by scoale

Optimistic! I'm expecting 6-speed, CF roof, adaptive suspension, S58, better interior (including HUD), and improved steering, ride, grip & handling, based on what BMW accomplished with G80. This will be my F80 replacement.

Agreed, this recipe is so enticing. And if it's ~$65k, you can more or less count me in. Would be a great way to say farewell to the 6MT if this is the end.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by ScullyD

Is anyone still under the belief that the DCT is not gone? Time to move on to reality.

Gone at BMW...

[PLF69]

I guess the idea of a really affordable M car (a la 1M or OG M2) is less popular than it was, I see a lot wanting everything possible in this chassis.

BMW's strategy for the G87 remains to be disclosed, are they going to move up a price bracket like they did with the M3/4 or offer a bare bones M car with super expensive models like they did for the end of the F series..

As time goes on, the target audience seem to have more money to spend so my guess is we should see a price increase.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

Gone at BMW...

Still alive for ± 60 days (M2 Competition - USA spec (2U73)).

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by RugbyBro

My predictions:
- Faster, a lot faster
- Way more capable
- Adaptive suspension available
- More insulated, comfortable, less “go-kart”
- Uglier than its predecessor, but more “traditional” looking than G22, G8X, or I4

The G87 M2 fenders look rather un-"traditional", though.

[Transfer]

Originally Posted by PLF69

I guess the idea of a really affordable M car (a la 1M or OG M2) is less popular than it was, I see a lot wanting everything possible in this chassis.

BMW's strategy for the G87 remains to be disclosed, are they going to move up a price bracket like they did with the M3/4 or offer a bare bones M car with super expensive models like they did for the end of the F series..

As time goes on, the target audience seem to have more money to spend so my guess is we should see a price increase.

It sounds like there will be a lot of options such as carbon roof that will add to a base price for those that want the more expensive version. It will be interesting to see base starting price and all the doodads that can be added.

[Al Bundy's Dodge]

Originally Posted by Transfer

It sounds like there will be a lot of options such as carbon roof that will add to a base price for those that want the more expensive version. It will be interesting to see base starting price and all the doodads that can be added.

Indeed

Though the big draw of the OG M2 to me was the lack of doodads!

Car drove and sounded great, what else do you need?!!?

As long as it has 6MT, A/C, heat, and a stereo, I'm good to go!

[Game]

Let's hope they change their mind on the carbon bucket seats.

Pumped for this car!

[AlpsRider]

If the new M2 G87 has options like the M3/M4 then I believe the configured price will be higher than what people are expecting.

[elliswyatt]

Originally Posted by Emme2

Why? Some F87 CS owners are throwing that away. Added weight and complexity with future legacy dramas (hence why many of these cars are converted to good old hydraulic systems).

The stock M2 suspension was hard on my back but I loved everything else about the car.

[Rewted]

Any hints at an xDrive variant?

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by Rewted

Any hints at an xDrive variant?

None.

[akkando]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

None.

Any chance they stuff a b58 in it in the lowest tier version?

Will the MT only be available on the non comp version to be consistent with the M3/4?

[heavyD^2]

Originally Posted by PLF69

I guess the idea of a really affordable M car (a la 1M or OG M2) is less popular than it was, I see a lot wanting everything possible in this chassis.

BMW's strategy for the G87 remains to be disclosed, are they going to move up a price bracket like they did with the M3/4 or offer a bare bones M car with super expensive models like they did for the end of the F series..

As time goes on, the target audience seem to have more money to spend so my guess is we should see a price increase.

Auto prices are increasing all across the board. The average price of a vehicle in the US is now around $37k.

[Multimodal]

Originally Posted by PLF69

I guess the idea of a really affordable M car (a la 1M or OG M2) is less popular than it was, I see a lot wanting everything possible in this chassis.

BMW's strategy for the G87 remains to be disclosed, are they going to move up a price bracket like they did with the M3/4 or offer a bare bones M car with super expensive models like they did for the end of the F series..

As time goes on, the target audience seem to have more money to spend so my guess is we should see a price increase.

Doesn't BMW have a pretty clear recipe for a successful entry level performance car at this point based on the 1M Coupe and M2C? Take components from the M3, put them on a smaller chassis, detune it a bit and reduce luxury options to create differential pricing, and offer it at a 15-20% lower price than the M3. This model has very low development cost - giving us magical results from a cost-efficient parts bin strategy. The new M3 starts at $69,900 so I don't see the next-generation M2 going up much in price. 10% lower would be $62,910. 15% lower would be $59,415.

I think the biggest risks on the next-gen M2 will be (1) exterior styling and (2) putting in a non-M engine like the 2016-18 M2 had instead of the proper M engine that the 2019-21 M2C has had (which arguably only happened because of emissions requirements).