[PLF69]

Originally Posted by kyrix1st

Screw the xDrive and screw the ZF8, give me DCT any day.
That being said, it's probably going to be a hybrid.

Those days are gone, BMW chose there path.

[stefan]

Originally Posted by SW19

Makes you wonder if that is the case why they would wait 2 years to release the M2C.Why not just release both at the same time.I’m really surprised that they seem to be using the same formula for the G87 that they did for the F87.First the limited colors and now this info.

How many people are going to buy the base car then upgrade later (or imo downgrade. Auto box AWD m2..smh). Anyway you have your answer.

[M Division]

Originally Posted by Straight6Dave

Yes, but it's also a great way to keep the model selling throughout the years.

First 2 years you catch the "gotta have it now" folks and in 2 years they'll be back to upgrade.

Also caters for suckers people like me who only keep their cars for about 2 years. I have a G42 now, will (prob) pick up a launch G87 then (prob) be back for the G87 Comp.

[David1]

Originally Posted by stefan

How many people are going to buy the base car then upgrade later (or imo downgrade. Auto box AWD m2..smh). Anyway you have your answer.

I did that last time. Not going to this time even if I can get over the looks. Might just do an M4 or Dark Horse Mustang.

[FrozenGT]

Originally Posted by M Division

Also caters for suckers people like me who only keep their cars for about 2 years. I have a G42 now, will (prob) pick up a launch G87 then (prob) be back for the G87 Comp.

The M2C 2024 G87

- Comp 473HP 8Sp Auto Only
- M2 Base 450HP 6MT Only

Thanks!

[ElHeffe]

Originally Posted by M Division

Also caters for suckers people like me who only keep their cars for about 2 years. I have a G42 now, will (prob) pick up a launch G87 then (prob) be back for the G87 Comp.

This may very well be me as well. It depends how much the manual grows on me or if I get tired of rowing the gears.

[Karmic Man]

Originally Posted by M3WC

I understand, "changeover" seems to elude to something like the F87. Where the base model is ended and Comp replaces it. I was just commenting, if that does happen...the Comp could get bumped to Base M3/M4 hp/tq power levels and still retain a manual option. G87 already deviates from G80/G82 by offering auto on Base model. I think people need to stop comparing G87 and G80/G82 lifecycles, it is clear BMW has different plans for G87. Comp model doesn't have to mean auto only.

Yep, just like the F87 CS had the 6MT option but the F80/82 CS didn't

The G87 M2C should come with the 6MT option, fingers crossed for the CS/CSL

[BimmerMat135]

Originally Posted by TractionControlDelete

I'd imagine so because the manual transmission is only rated for 443 lb-ft.

If they purposely detune the M2 base then I could see room for a manual M2 Comp. But if the M2 base is already 406+ lb-ft then that pretty much seals the deal that all other variants will be auto.

BMW has been using the same transmission, derived from the 1M in 2010, in all of the M2/M3/M4 cars. Unlikely they'll change now.

The only way (read: not gonna happen) is if they bring back the manual transmission from the E60 M5.

I think that the limit for their MT is 550nm/406ft-lbs. I beleive the only car that had a MT with more than 550nm was the F10 550i and M5 so probably somewhere their is a transmission that can handle more. Considering the infos we already have I would say that the normal M2 wil have 455hp and the competition will have 473hp both with 406ft-lbs allowing the MT. The question is about the auto competition it might end up with the X3 non comp figures 457ft-lbs.

[440i6MT]

Originally Posted by M Division

Also caters for suckers people like me who only keep their cars for about 2 years. I have a G42 now, will (prob) pick up a launch G87 then (prob) be back for the G87 Comp.

How nice is the new iPhone?

[jb001]

Fool me once…

[RAUDERRIPPER]

Where's the CS version

[SocalBM]

Originally Posted by BimmerMat135

I think that the limit for their MT is 550nm/406ft-lbs. I beleive the only car that had a MT with more than 550nm was the F10 550i and M5 so probably somewhere their is a transmission that can handle more. Considering the infos we already have I would say that the normal M2 wil have 455hp and the competition will have 473hp both with 406ft-lbs allowing the MT. The question is about the auto competition it might end up with the X3 non comp figures 457ft-lbs.

Tremec 6060 (in the Viper, for instance) doesn't need mods for pushing 800+ HP and 750+ tq.

[akkando]

Originally Posted by M Division

Also caters for suckers people like me who only keep their cars for about 2 years. I have a G42 now, will (prob) pick up a launch G87 then (prob) be back for the G87 Comp.

Are you going to keep anything or just upgrade yourself into an electric self driving car by 2030?

[ScullyD]

Originally Posted by SocalBM

Tremec 6060 (in the Viper, for instance) doesn't need mods for pushing 800+ HP and 750+ tq.

What's you point? You want BMW to put a Tremec in an M2?

[PLF69]

Originally Posted by ScullyD

What's you point? You want BMW to put a Tremec in an M2?

Day dreaming in front of us

[trey100]

Originally Posted by PLF69

Day dreaming in front of us

Screw the DCT. BMW needs one of these 18 speed guys good for 1,850 lb-ft of torque.

https://www.freightwaves.com/news/pa...t-kenworth/amp

[TractionControlDelete]

Originally Posted by BimmerMat135

I think that the limit for their MT is 550nm/406ft-lbs. I beleive the only car that had a MT with more than 550nm was the F10 550i and M5 so probably somewhere their is a transmission that can handle more. Considering the infos we already have I would say that the normal M2 wil have 455hp and the competition will have 473hp both with 406ft-lbs allowing the MT. The question is about the auto competition it might end up with the X3 non comp figures 457ft-lbs.

They use the ZF S6-53 transmission which tops out at 443.

https://www.zf.com/products/en/cars/...nder/cars.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZF_S6-53_transmission

[Tag]

Originally Posted by TractionControlDelete

They use the ZF S6-53 transmission which tops out at 443.

https://www.zf.com/products/en/cars/...nder/cars.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZF_S6-53_transmission

Is there a BMW in production today with a MT that is putting out more than 406 lb-ft? If not, I just can't see the M2 getting a MT for any higher output versions of the car. The bean counters will make sure of that.

[T3CH]

Originally Posted by Tag

Is there a BMW in production today with a MT that is putting out more than 406 lb-ft? If not, I just can't see the M2 getting a MT for any higher output versions of the car. The bean counters will make sure of that.

The new 3.0 CSL is confirmed to be a manual

[Tag]

Originally Posted by T3CH

The new 3.0 CSL is confirmed to be a manual

Somebody slap me so I know I'm not dreaming.

[TractionControlDelete]

Originally Posted by Tag

Somebody slap me so I know I'm not dreaming.

Perhaps the $800,000 price tag will be just the slap you needed?

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a4...-m-csl-teased/

[PLF69]

Originally Posted by TractionControlDelete

Perhaps the $800,000 price tag will be just the slap you needed?

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a40435258/bmw-m-csl-teased/