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Irregardless the 406 ft-lb toque number will be the restricting factor just as it is in the 3.0 CSL. FYI, The CSL manual is a carryover. Lastly, BMW, Getrag nor ZF are not going to R&D a new manual transmission towards the end of ICE. It will never happen! |
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05-08-2023, 10:56 AM | #223 | |
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ZF rate the S6-53 up to 600Nm, but BMW has never done that, likely due to the torque being under rated on cars using that transmission, so that they don't exceed the ZF limit. |
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https://www.bmwblog.com/2018/10/19/b...orque-on-dyno/ You know they always underrate those. |
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05-08-2023, 06:00 PM | #226 | |
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05-27-2023, 02:59 PM | #228 |
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2025 M2 CS spy pics - duckbill/CS/L wheels
https://www.carscoops.com/2023/05/20...ng-csl-wheels/
Sorry if posted before or crappy formatting, I'm a noob More pics can be seen now Last edited by gabeomatic; 05-28-2023 at 02:07 PM.. |
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05-28-2023, 06:06 AM | #231 |
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don’t need more power
they need less weight.
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05-28-2023, 11:37 PM | #233 |
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Linky no worky...
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Pretty much solidifies my Alpha N trunk decision!
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Sorry for those G87 lovers, I think it’s still ugly as fuck. I think that is a popular issue with new BMW models.
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05-30-2023, 01:18 PM | #237 |
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Forget about the CS, with 75 m2 per month for US market (i was told, and I hope that person is wrong!) it takes years to get a regular M2!
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05-30-2023, 02:15 PM | #239 |
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And what exactly is he going to do with less weight ? For ppl who are not pushing these cars to there limits the weight is a none issue, do not confuse weight and overall compliance/isolation.
I just did a 2-day track event with my 2023 M3 and the main thing holding me back to push more is that I don't feel the car enaugh, hoping some little tweaks like BMW Has + monoballs will up the feedback a bit, yes there will be more NVH, today most ppl want everything without the drawbacks so that's what we get, fast shifting transmission but without the low speed quirks so bye DCT and we get 8ZF.. It's almost surprising BMW built these carbon buckets witch do help a lot to feel the car.
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05-30-2023, 04:35 PM | #240 | |
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It’s incredible to me how far motoring culture has declined—to not appreciate less weight as a great feature of a driver’s car
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Weight is killing the fun in any car. The lighter the better!
I have taken the plunge and ordered a GT4RS i don’t want a bigger and heavier car then an M2 competition which is already on the heavy side. The only bmw in the stable is an X1 The fun cars are from other brands. |
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