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      12-31-2014, 09:12 AM   #1
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Is that the best you could do for your picture?
Nice m3 btw.
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Nice m3 btw.
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LoL... I posted this pic with my iPhone (with the Bimmerpost APP).
I will probably understand your feedback when I will check my post on my computer.
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Is that the best you could do for your picture?
Nice m3 btw.
Tough crowd!.....but I get what you're saying
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Title should read 'M4 DRIVING in the Snow'

Would be a lot more entertaining! Sorry for not contributing... it's a nice 47 degrees outside!
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@coolmody: which temperature outside? amazing frozen pic...


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@coolmody: which temperature outside? amazing frozen pic...
It was -20 Celcius out on the lake. It was very cold, but the car did well out there. I was doing some ice driving training in preparation for some competitive winter RallyX.
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It was -20 Celcius out on the lake. It was very cold, but the car did well out there. I was doing some ice driving training in preparation for some competitive winter RallyX.
Satisfied with the traction? What winter tyres do you use? Do you have DSC off? Awesome pic! Share more if you have!
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Satisfied with the traction? What winter tyres do you use? Do you have DSC off? Awesome pic! Share more if you have!
Same questions.

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Let me see you drive in 6" of unpacked snow then you can call it M4 driving in snow #rs4rulessnow
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Satisfied with the traction? What winter tyres do you use? Do you have DSC off? Awesome pic! Share more if you have!
Acceleration isn't going to compete with an AWD vehicle. You have to ease on the throttle when taking off from a stop, but once you are moving, the car does much better. Turn in and braking are fantastic on the ice. The car will generally oversteer, unless you are coming in too hot into a turn. When you drive on ice, the dynamics and limits of the car are much easier to find and you can very easily tell if your car is setup to oversteer or understeer. Before the M3, I was using an Audi S4, and that car likes to understeer. With the M3, it will want to oversteer (not surprising).

I'm using Nokian Hakkapeliitta 8 studded winters and that is where I am getting an advantage over other cars out there. If you watch some of the videos below, you will see how the car catches up to other cars which are not running studs.

DSC was off for the majority of the day. I tried the car with it fully engaged and with MDM on. Both were too intrusive on the ice. They are good for keeping you out of trouble in the city, but out where I was, it was much slower with the aids turned on. I also tried all the different settings and modes, and found the best setup to be:

Throttle - Sport
Suspension - Comfort
Steering - Sport+

Throttle in Sport+ was too sensitive, and the suspension was perfect in Comfort mode. Lake ice isn't perfectly smooth like a skating rink which has a Zamboni smoothing it out. It can get quite rough depending on weather conditions, and how the lake has frozen over. Some sections get very rough and bumpy, but the adaptive suspension handles it beautifully. The steering on Sport+ feels very light, as the front wheels aren't doing much slipping and sliding around on the ice

Overall the car did very well. The first competitive event is in 2 weeks, so I will see how the car does against other cars in my class (studded RWD class). For anyone that wants to learn how their car behaves at lower speeds, driving it on ice is the way to do it. It's easier to learn the car (slower speeds), and also much easier on your tires

Some videos and pictures below. Video 1 is a clean run. Video 2 features 2 spinouts. If you aren't careful, its hard to keep a drift going

I don't have the best pictures or videos from outside the car, as I couldn't convince anyone to stand outside in -20 temps to take them.



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Satisfied with the traction? What winter tyres do you use? Do you have DSC off? Awesome pic! Share more if you have!
Acceleration isn't going to compete with an AWD vehicle. You have to ease on the throttle when taking off from a stop, but once you are moving, the car does much better. Turn in and braking are fantastic on the ice. The car will generally oversteer, unless you are coming in too hot into a turn. When you drive on ice, the dynamics and limits of the car are much easier to find and you can very easily tell if your car is setup to oversteer or understeer. Before the M3, I was using an Audi S4, and that car likes to understeer. With the M3, it will want to oversteer (not surprising).

I'm using Nokian Hakkapeliitta 8 studded winters and that is where I am getting an advantage over other cars out there. If you watch some of the videos below, you will see how the car catches up to other cars which are not running studs.

DSC was off for the majority of the day. I tried the car with it fully engaged and with MDM on. Both were too intrusive on the ice. They are good for keeping you out of trouble in the city, but out where I was, it was much slower with the aids turned on. I also tried all the different settings and modes, and found the best setup to be:

Throttle - Sport
Suspension - Comfort
Steering - Sport+

Throttle in Sport+ was too sensitive, and the suspension was perfect in Comfort mode. Lake ice isn't perfectly smooth like a skating rink which has a Zamboni smoothing it out. It can get quite rough depending on weather conditions, and how the lake has frozen over. Some sections get very rough and bumpy, but the adaptive suspension handles it beautifully. The steering on Sport+ feels very light, as the front wheels aren't doing much slipping and sliding around on the ice

Overall the car did very well. The first competitive event is in 2 weeks, so I will see how the car does against other cars in my class (studded RWD class). For anyone that wants to learn how their car behaves at lower speeds, driving it on ice is the way to do it. It's easier to learn the car (slower speeds), and also much easier on your tires

Some videos and pictures below. Video 1 is a clean run. Video 2 features 2 spinouts. If you aren't careful, its hard to keep a drift going

I don't have the best pictures or videos from outside the car, as I couldn't convince anyone to stand outside in -20 temps to take them.



That's awesome!!!!!!!
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Acceleration isn't going to compete with an AWD vehicle. You have to ease on the throttle when taking off from a stop, but once you are moving, the car does much better. Turn in and braking are fantastic on the ice. The car will generally oversteer, unless you are coming in too hot into a turn. When you drive on ice, the dynamics and limits of the car are much easier to find and you can very easily tell if your car is setup to oversteer or understeer. Before the M3, I was using an Audi S4, and that car likes to understeer. With the M3, it will want to oversteer (not surprising).

I'm using Nokian Hakkapeliitta 8 studded winters and that is where I am getting an advantage over other cars out there. If you watch some of the videos below, you will see how the car catches up to other cars which are not running studs.

DSC was off for the majority of the day. I tried the car with it fully engaged and with MDM on. Both were too intrusive on the ice. They are good for keeping you out of trouble in the city, but out where I was, it was much slower with the aids turned on. I also tried all the different settings and modes, and found the best setup to be:

Throttle - Sport
Suspension - Comfort
Steering - Sport+

Throttle in Sport+ was too sensitive, and the suspension was perfect in Comfort mode. Lake ice isn't perfectly smooth like a skating rink which has a Zamboni smoothing it out. It can get quite rough depending on weather conditions, and how the lake has frozen over. Some sections get very rough and bumpy, but the adaptive suspension handles it beautifully. The steering on Sport+ feels very light, as the front wheels aren't doing much slipping and sliding around on the ice

Overall the car did very well. The first competitive event is in 2 weeks, so I will see how the car does against other cars in my class (studded RWD class). For anyone that wants to learn how their car behaves at lower speeds, driving it on ice is the way to do it. It's easier to learn the car (slower speeds), and also much easier on your tires

Some videos and pictures below. Video 1 is a clean run. Video 2 features 2 spinouts. If you aren't careful, its hard to keep a drift going

I don't have the best pictures or videos from outside the car, as I couldn't convince anyone to stand outside in -20 temps to take them.



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Ghost lake?
Yep. You should come out and join me. I need a bigger posse to take on all the Subaru's out there
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Yep. You should come out and join me. I need a bigger posse to take on all the Subaru's out there
No studs, no experience with rally and no guts.....but damn that does look like fun.


How often/when do you meet and race?
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Acceleration isn't going to compete with an AWD vehicle. You have to ease on the throttle when taking off from a stop, but once you are moving, the car does much better. Turn in and braking are fantastic on the ice. The car will generally oversteer, unless you are coming in too hot into a turn. When you drive on ice, the dynamics and limits of the car are much easier to find and you can very easily tell if your car is setup to oversteer or understeer. Before the M3, I was using an Audi S4, and that car likes to understeer. With the M3, it will want to oversteer (not surprising).

I'm using Nokian Hakkapeliitta 8 studded winters and that is where I am getting an advantage over other cars out there. If you watch some of the videos below, you will see how the car catches up to other cars which are not running studs.

DSC was off for the majority of the day. I tried the car with it fully engaged and with MDM on. Both were too intrusive on the ice. They are good for keeping you out of trouble in the city, but out where I was, it was much slower with the aids turned on. I also tried all the different settings and modes, and found the best setup to be:

Throttle - Sport
Suspension - Comfort
Steering - Sport+

Throttle in Sport+ was too sensitive, and the suspension was perfect in Comfort mode. Lake ice isn't perfectly smooth like a skating rink which has a Zamboni smoothing it out. It can get quite rough depending on weather conditions, and how the lake has frozen over. Some sections get very rough and bumpy, but the adaptive suspension handles it beautifully. The steering on Sport+ feels very light, as the front wheels aren't doing much slipping and sliding around on the ice

Overall the car did very well. The first competitive event is in 2 weeks, so I will see how the car does against other cars in my class (studded RWD class). For anyone that wants to learn how their car behaves at lower speeds, driving it on ice is the way to do it. It's easier to learn the car (slower speeds), and also much easier on your tires

Some videos and pictures below. Video 1 is a clean run. Video 2 features 2 spinouts. If you aren't careful, its hard to keep a drift going

I don't have the best pictures or videos from outside the car, as I couldn't convince anyone to stand outside in -20 temps to take them.



Man - that looks like a blast....
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No studs, no experience with rally and no guts.....but damn that does look like fun.


How often/when do you meet and race?
You have to start somewhere! There are lots of guys out there running without studs.

We race every 2 weeks. We had another outing today filled with tons of fun and even more snow.
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