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      05-16-2015, 06:47 PM   #1
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Hey Guys,

I bought carbon fiber side grills, hood vents and front grills from Turner Motorsports and they ended up being really bad quality. The side grills faded severely, the hood vents didn't fit at all, and the front grills had a huge layer of bubbles after a few months of sun exposure. I am thinking about purchasing the front and side grills as well as the hood vents from EAS. The vents are from EAS, but the front and side grills are from IND on their website. I just wanted to ask if I should be worried about fitment, bubbling or fading? The parts aren't cheap so I don't want to spend money only to have this happen again. Thanks in advance.
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I may be wrong but I don't think the CF parts are made in house same as the Turner CF stuff. You may want to look into OEM "edition" stuff as the black chrome actually blends with the carbon fiber bits really well plus it's OEM so there's rarely any problems
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I may be wrong but I don't think the CF parts are made in house same as the Turner CF stuff. You may want to look into OEM "edition" stuff as the black chrome actually blends with the carbon fiber bits really well plus it's OEM so there's rarely any problems
Black chrome OEM? I can't say I've ever heard of that before. EAS and IND claim they use OEM parts and layer it with carbon fiber. I'm not sure if you are saying to go with that or look at BMW's website?
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Black chrome OEM? I can't say I've ever heard of that before. EAS and IND claim they use OEM parts and layer it with carbon fiber. I'm not sure if you are saying to go with that or look at BMW's website?
I just wasn't sure if EAS and iND made them in house. But I was referring to OEM gills and grill. They make chrome, black and the "Edition" set which is called black chrome. I went through the same thing trying to match with my CF parts and ultimately went with the "edition" set which matches nicely




Check this out
http://ind-distribution.com/ind/bran...ion-grille-set
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Black chrome OEM? I can't say I've ever heard of that before. EAS and IND claim they use OEM parts and layer it with carbon fiber. I'm not sure if you are saying to go with that or look at BMW's website?
I just wasn't sure if EAS and iND made them in house. But I was referring to OEM gills and grill. They make chrome, black and the "Edition" set which is called black chrome. I went through the same thing trying to match with my CF parts and ultimately went with the "edition" set which matches nicely




Check this out
http://ind-distribution.com/ind/brands/bmw/bmw-edition-grille-set
Wow that looks great, thanks for the pictures!
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Wow that looks great, thanks for the pictures!
No prob. Just something to think about.
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+1.

BMW OEM Front and Side Grilles in black chrome (SKU : EDITIONPKG) and iND Carbon Fiber Hood Vents (SKU : CFVENTS).

Great service, easy install and perfect fitment. HINT: On the side grilles, use the clear wrapping tape method to pull the old ones off (there's a video for this on YouTube), not the pry method.

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+1.

BMW OEM Front and Side Grilles in black chrome (SKU : EDITIONPKG) and iND Carbon Fiber Hood Vents (SKU : CFVENTS).

Great service, easy install and perfect fitment. HINT: On the side grilles, use the clear wrapping tape method to pull the old ones off (there's a video for this on YouTube), not the pry method.

Good luck!
Yes don't pry them
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      05-18-2015, 09:52 AM   #9
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Hey Guys,

I bought carbon fiber side grills, hood vents and front grills from Turner Motorsports and they ended up being really bad quality. The side grills faded severely, the hood vents didn't fit at all, and the front grills had a huge layer of bubbles after a few months of sun exposure. I am thinking about purchasing the front and side grills as well as the hood vents from EAS. The vents are from EAS, but the front and side grills are from IND on their website. I just wanted to ask if I should be worried about fitment, bubbling or fading? The parts aren't cheap so I don't want to spend money only to have this happen again. Thanks in advance.
I purchased a set of CF gills from IND about a year ago and the first set had some quality issues that that addressed promptly by send a new set.

Fast forward 8-12 months later and unfortunately the clear coating (or maybe it's the actual CF) has started to bubble up and no longer looks great up close. Not sure if this is a rare issue related to a bad batch, but it's something to consider if you have to replace them every year or so
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Hey Guys,

I bought carbon fiber side grills, hood vents and front grills from Turner Motorsports and they ended up being really bad quality. The side grills faded severely, the hood vents didn't fit at all, and the front grills had a huge layer of bubbles after a few months of sun exposure. I am thinking about purchasing the front and side grills as well as the hood vents from EAS. The vents are from EAS, but the front and side grills are from IND on their website. I just wanted to ask if I should be worried about fitment, bubbling or fading? The parts aren't cheap so I don't want to spend money only to have this happen again. Thanks in advance.
funny you should post this thread because I had the same issue with the side vents. Bought carbon fiber ones from EAS which are through IND and last night while doing some roll runs, they both popped out and are somewhere scattered along the freeway. Mind you that was my second set. They just don't stay clipped in tight enough. Good luck
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Yea just skip the little carbon pieces.

My opinion is that if it isn't available in carbon from BMW there's a reason.

Stick to carbon on the lip, mirrors, roof, spoiler and diffuser.

But for grilles and gills just get the BMW gloss black or "edition" black chrome. The black chrome really is sick and more special than carbon. I have an edition grille that's 30k miles old now, sits outside all day and looks brand new still.

These awkward carbon parts always fade over time.
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Yea just skip the little carbon pieces.

My opinion is that if it isn't available in carbon from BMW there's a reason.

Stick to carbon on the lip, mirrors, roof, spoiler and diffuser.

But for grilles and gills just get the BMW gloss black or "edition" black chrome. The black chrome really is sick and more special than carbon. I have an edition grille that's 30k miles old now, sits outside all day and looks brand new still.

These awkward carbon parts always fade over time.
Cannot agree more. These small pieces with awkward curves and angles are inherently difficult to wrap also which is likely why unskilled parts manufacturers keep pushing out junk.
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I purchased a set of CF gills from IND about a year ago and the first set had some quality issues that that addressed promptly by send a new set.

Fast forward 8-12 months later and unfortunately the clear coating (or maybe it's the actual CF) has started to bubble up and no longer looks great up close. Not sure if this is a rare issue related to a bad batch, but it's something to consider if you have to replace them every year or so
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funny you should post this thread because I had the same issue with the side vents. Bought carbon fiber ones from EAS which are through IND and last night while doing some roll runs, they both popped out and are somewhere scattered along the freeway. Mind you that was my second set. They just don't stay clipped in tight enough. Good luck
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Yea just skip the little carbon pieces.

My opinion is that if it isn't available in carbon from BMW there's a reason.

Stick to carbon on the lip, mirrors, roof, spoiler and diffuser.

But for grilles and gills just get the BMW gloss black or "edition" black chrome. The black chrome really is sick and more special than carbon. I have an edition grille that's 30k miles old now, sits outside all day and looks brand new still.

These awkward carbon parts always fade over time.
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Cannot agree more. These small pieces with awkward curves and angles are inherently difficult to wrap also which is likely why unskilled parts manufacturers keep pushing out junk.
Thank you all for the advice, i am probably going to switch to the BMW Black Chrome, i reckon it will look great. Would you mind letting me know where I can find the product (OEM edition of course). Thanks once again everyone
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OEM black chrome is very nice. I purchased OEM Gloss Black (performance) and have iND gloss black side gills. They match the shadowline trim and gloss black in the mirrors perfectly.
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Thank you all for the advice, i am probably going to switch to the BMW Black Chrome, i reckon it will look great. Would you mind letting me know where I can find the product (OEM edition of course). Thanks once again everyone
I posted a link with my pics...at the bottom of my second reply
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I posted a link with my pics...at the bottom of my second reply
thanks mate, will definitely check it out!
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I have yet to find a source for CF part for our cars that have OEM fit and proper UV protection. I bought a set of mirror covers (not the overlay) and they split while I was installing them. Don't even get me started on the hood vents.. Disaster! Needless to say stick with BMW performance and you will keep a few more hairs on your head LOL
I went with Black chrome Performance edition parts. Let me know if you can't find pics
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I have yet to find a source for CF part for our cars that have OEM fit and proper UV protection. I bought a set of mirror covers (not the overlay) and they split while I was installing them. Don't even get me started on the hood vents.. Disaster! Needless to say stick with BMW performance and you will keep a few more hairs on your head LOL
I went with Black chrome Performance edition parts. Let me know if you can't find pics
Haha thanks mate, actually if you want CF mirror caps, BMW has OEM Performance ones that work great! As for the vents and what not, I am definitely getting the Black chrome parts now after listening to everyone on this thread. Thanks for your post!
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Haha thanks mate, actually if you want CF mirror caps, BMW has OEM Performance ones that work great! As for the vents and what not, I am definitely getting the Black chrome parts now after listening to everyone on this thread. Thanks for your post!
Good call on going with Black Chrome OEM . Anytime you buy some aftermarket carbon fiber you are rolling the dice. I have a ton of Carbon Fiber mods on my M3 since 2008 some still looking good and some bad . I gave up on the CF hood vents . It took me 3 times to finally find a vender with good CF front grills that did not bubble up and melt . take a look at my garage pics .
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Haha thanks mate, actually if you want CF mirror caps, BMW has OEM Performance ones that work great! As for the vents and what not, I am definitely getting the Black chrome parts now after listening to everyone on this thread. Thanks for your post!
Good call on going with Black Chrome OEM . Anytime you buy some aftermarket carbon fiber you are rolling the dice. I have a ton of Carbon Fiber mods on my M3 since 2008 some still looking good and some bad . I gave up on the CF hood vents . It took me 3 times to finally find a vender with good CF front grills that did not bubble up and melt . take a look at my garage pics .
Haha thanks mate, would you mind letting me know which company you got the Carbon fiber grills from? Just for future reference should I choose to go back.
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Haha thanks mate, would you mind letting me know which company you got the Carbon fiber grills from? Just for future reference should I choose to go back.
I got my CF grills from IND glad that worked out finally because it was getting expensive $$$ rolling the dice on a good vendor with good CF grills that did not bubble or melt . I guess like they say 3 times a charm because that is how many times it took me to get it right .
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Haha thanks mate, would you mind letting me know which company you got the Carbon fiber grills from? Just for future reference should I choose to go back.
I got my CF grills from IND glad that worked out finally because it was getting expensive rolling the dice on a good vendor with good CF grills that did not bubble or melt . I guess like they say 3 times a charm because that is how many times it took me to get it right .
I checked out your car man, it looks bloody fantastic. I've seen carbon fiber overkill on cars before, but your car is done so tastefully and the carbon fiber really compliments the paint and style. I aspire to make my car like yours one day!
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