Does anyone else think the m4 exhaust/engine sounds worse than a 335i?

[E90Alex]

Do not mean to be a hater but wanted to hear your opinions. To my ear, it seems like a modded m4 sounds much worse than a modded 335i.

[Blksnowflake]

don't buy it, keep driving your 335i. by the way, the answer is no!

[geneatals]

compared to my brothers 335is with oem perf exhaust I like the sound of mine honestly...

but hey...to each his own...

[PopsnBurbles]

I'm sorry but the M4 sounds bad and most of my friends agree. I'm shocked that BMW did not consider "tuning" the M4's sound. Modded M4's sound is more tolerable but still not "OMG GREAT!".

At the end of the day, it's all about what works and the M4 seems to do very well in that department (while sounding terrible). The e46 M3 sounded like crap and proved to be a potent car so...the M4 should not be discounted for sound. (I personally would not get an M4 but it's mainly because of the size for me.)

[E90Alex]

Originally Posted by Blksnowflake

don't buy it, keep driving your 335i. by the way, the answer is no!

I do not drive a 335i.

[IEDEI]

YES.....the F8X is the worst sounding M car i've ever heard.....

[E90Alex]

+1, point of the thread was that it kind of blew my mind that a modded 335i sounds more aggressive.

Originally Posted by PopsnBurbles

I'm sorry but the M4 sounds bad and most of my friends agree. I'm shocked that BMW did not consider "tuning" the M4's sound. Modded M4's sound is more tolerable but still not "OMG GREAT!" like the E9x (modded or stock).

At the end of the day, it's all about what works and the M4 seems to do very well in that department (while sounding terrible). The e46 M3 sounded like crap and proved to be a potent car so...the M4 should not be discounted for sound. (I personally would not get an M4 but it's mainly because of the size for me.)

[lowbudgethero]

at high revs the m4/m3 sound great to me, same with the e46 m3

[Blksnowflake]

Originally Posted by PopsnBurbles

I'm sorry but the M4 sounds bad and most of my friends agree. I'm shocked that BMW did not consider "tuning" the M4's sound. Modded M4's sound is more tolerable but still not "OMG GREAT!".

At the end of the day, it's all about what works and the M4 seems to do very well in that department (while sounding terrible). The e46 M3 sounded like crap and proved to be a potent car so...the M4 should not be discounted for sound. (I personally would not get an M4 but it's mainly because of the size for me.)

right, but a 335i sounds better? not.
besides, this isn't a car you buy for sound alone.
GTR doesn't sound great but that isn't its claim to fame.

Ownership experience:
modded 335
modded M3/4
not even remotely close. F8x all day.
I actually like my F80 sound, especially with an MPE. but yeah a GT3 sounds better, so what, buy that then or new C63s, stop complaining, go buy something and enjoy it.

[Delta0311]

I would say the M4 exhaust sounds is maybe a notch above the E9x 328 performance exhaust.

At this point it looks like BMW is making cars that appeal to as wide an audience as possible. Same goes for the M cars, they are not just for enthusiasts any more.

[brianeck]

My 2011 335i xdrive w/ jb4 and dinan exhaust sounded considerably better then my stock 2015 m3.

Performance wise it's not THAT far off in most situations either, especially when traction is an issue. . .

I'd still take the m3 over the 335 and I consider it a worthy upgrade. At the same time, my Dinan exhaust cost me like $1700 installed on my 335, and made the car sound way friggin better. At this point in time I just don't see any of the exhausts I've heard as worth double that, because they don't even sound "as good as it did."

On that note, I'm not going to hate on the original post as someone who has owned both.

And by the way, my stock 650i GC sound wise absolutely murdered both of the previous mentioned cars.

M3 is still my favorite, except when there is snow on the ground. . . 335ix modded F****** RAPES the snow.

[AM4ZING]

M Performance exhaust will change your mind 180 degrees about the sound of f8x cars

[Sal@AUTOcouture]

Personally, I prefer the N55 sound to the S55. However, everything else goes with the S55.

[OG///M]

There's no point in comparing non stock exhausts since it varies so much from brand to brand. So the M perf exhaust point is moot.

Always thought the sound and size were the only major flaws of the F8x M3/4s. It's really a pity too, cause the rest of the car is perfection. Can't help but wonder how can the M engineers hear that sound stock and say "ja ves sounds gut". To me, E46, E92, and even the upcoming F87 M2 all sound miles ahead.

Sounds are just like looks, very subjective so there's that.

BTW, after giving it a chance several different occasions hearing it in person and driving it,
It really sealed the deal that I'm not going considering buying this gen M3/4.
Low miles E92 or F87 it is.

[E90Alex]

You are right about it being difficult to compare non stock exhausts. I have just been having a hard time finding any exhaust systems that make the f8x platform sound good.

If anyone has a video that would prove me otherwise I would love to watch it though.

I also wanted to make it clear that I am definitely a fan of the car outside of the sound that it produces. I was just so surprised that anyone at BMW thought it was acceptable!

Originally Posted by Francis///M

There's no point in comparing non stock exhausts since it varies so much from brand to brand. So the M perf exhaust point is moot.

Always thought the sound and size were the only major flaws of the F8x M3/4s. It's really a pity too, cause the rest of the car is perfection.
Can't help but wonder how can the M engineers hear that sound stock and say "ja ves sounds gut"

To me, E46, E92, and even the upcoming F87 M2 all sound miles ahead.
Sounds are just like looks, very subjective so there's that.

BTW, after giving it a chance several different occasions hearing it in person and driving it,
It really sealed the deal that I'm not going considering buying this gen M3/4.
Low miles E92 or F87 it is.

[OG///M]

Originally Posted by E90Alex

You are right about it being difficult to compare non stock exhausts. I have just been having a hard time finding any exhaust systems that make the f8x platform sound good.

If anyone has a video that would prove me otherwise I would love to watch it though.

I also wanted to make it clear that I am definitely a fan of the car outside of the sound that it produces. I was just so surprised that anyone at BMW thought it was acceptable!

Believe me, I also considered extensively about options since previously I was really looking into getting a M4. Listened to videos and IRL different exhaust setups, still couldn't find one that actually sounds good enough.

All the major aftermarket brands do improve it more or less, but none have really bring it to the acceptable level of "good" sounding, again in my opinion.

[Properstyle]

The f80 seems to require a perfect combo to sounds good. Stock sound like ass, the shift crackle sounds more like a fart then a pop. I'm sorry you really have to be honest with your self. Other turbo'd cars have never sounded so bad, really not sure what bmw was doing with the exhaust. Given that the M even comes with active sound is enough to suggest that even bmw knew the m4 doesn't sound great stock.

I won't compare it to a s65 becuase a v8 will almost always sound better than a turbod car. The m235i has a much better sound exhuast both stock and modded.

[Blksnowflake]

Come on, if you as a buyer could afford both vehicles, you're gonna tell me that you would really choose a 335i and mod it over an F8x that you could mod as well. I really don't see that, if so then I think the requirements for this buyer have little to do with performance and engineering. If you're picking the DCT, that alone is a game changer between the two.

But this subject of sound has been beaten to death, weather it's fake engine noise or the "weak" exhaust note, it is already an accepted fact that the sound is the weakest link. But every single metric elsewhere the new F80 demolishes the previous generation cars, a 335i is not even in the conversation or the same league of the M cars.....unless of course you mod it but no amount of modding can create the pride in ownership experience that an M car provides vs its standard siblings. Every car manufacturer is the same, Carrera or GT3, C400 or C63S, Ralliart or Evo X....every single case if money isn't an option I can't see someone choosing the lesser model.

[PopsnBurbles]

Originally Posted by Blksnowflake

right, but a 335i sounds better? not.
besides, this isn't a car you buy for sound alone.
GTR doesn't sound great but that isn't its claim to fame.

Ownership experience:
modded 335
modded M3/4
not even remotely close. F8x all day.
I actually like my F80 sound, especially with an MPE. but yeah a GT3 sounds better, so what, buy that then or new C63s, stop complaining, go buy something and enjoy it.

semantics...semantics...

But honestly, I feel that even a stock 335i sounds better because it doesn't sound obnoxious like a stock or a badly modded M4. I'll admit I'm in the minority in this regard.

"go buy something and enjoy it": I'm already having much fun with my 1er. My plan is to simply build on it over the years as my driving also develops. Same reason why I'm not considering an M4 = I can't have fun in that car because of having too much power for my skills, sound, interior, and SIZE.

[swagon]

I like the sound. It's different. Sort of reminds me the E46. I'd just like less farts. IMHO with the Active Autowerke exhaust it does make a much better sound than stock exhaust.

However, E9x 335i's with PE and 335is' sound totally amazing. Way better than F3x models.

[Properstyle]

Originally Posted by Blksnowflake

Come on, if you as a buyer could afford both vehicles, you're gonna tell me that you would really choose a 335i and mod it over an F8x that you could mod as well. I really don't see that, if so then I think the requirements for this buyer have little to do with performance and engineering. If you're picking the DCT, that alone is a game changer between the two.

But this subject of sound has been beaten to death, weather it's fake engine noise or the "weak" exhaust note, it is already an accepted fact that the sound is the weakest link. But every single metric elsewhere the new F80 demolishes the previous generation cars, a 335i is not even in the conversation or the same league of the M cars.....unless of course you mod it but no amount of modding can create the pride in ownership experience that an M car provides vs its standard siblings. Every car manufacturer is the same, Carrera or GT3, C400 or C63S, Ralliart or Evo X....every single case if money isn't an option I can't see someone choosing the lesser model.

You would be suprised how many actually have taken the stance that they were not happy with the f80 starting with sound. a few have sold it and gone back to a supercharged e9x car. For some, the sound is part of the thrill of a car. If you have the money to have both you can clearly do more with your money on a 335i then you can on af80. so it because preference. perfsoanlly I would take a f80 over a 335i thats modded but that will not be everyones stance.

[Blksnowflake]

Originally Posted by PopsnBurbles

semantics...semantics...

But honestly, I feel that even a stock 335i sounds better because it doesn't sound obnoxious like a stock or a badly modded M4. I'll admit I'm in the minority in this regard.

"go buy something and enjoy it": I'm already having much fun with my 1er. My plan is to simply build on it over the years as my driving also develops. Same reason why I'm not considering an M4 = I can't have fun in that car because of having too much power for my skills, sound, interior, and SIZE.

Fair enough, I can agree with the above. I don't mind the sound of the F80, I'm weird like that though because to me it has a unique sound that can't be mistaken for another car on the road. That's good and bad I guess. What I really don't like is the farting type noises, more pops and crackles would have been better.