Love it... people are ASSHOLES!

[M3Dimi]

So I get to work and I just noticed the entire right passenger side has a long ass scratch that may be a key or side swipe I'm thinking because it looks like it on the rear fender.... some jack ass probably got me sometime during the week I didn't really go anywhere this weekend with the M... so yea that's how my day is going...

FUCK.

[STooK]

I feel you, I just found a small ding on my door probably from my parking lot at home since it's parked there most of the time.

People get jealous when they see something nice. It's almost impossible to have something nice living in NYC.

[byroncheung]

Originally Posted by STooK

I feel you, I just found a small ding on my door probably from my parking lot at home since it's parked there most of the time.

People get jealous when they see something nice. It's almost impossible to have something nice living in NYC.

Man I just found a ding on my door as well this weekend. And last weekend found a scratch / paint crack on the corner on the rear bumper. So depressed...

These days I don't even park much on streets in NYC much, but still got all these. It's horrible how ppl drive. The other day when I was in Westchester Mall saw a lady bump into a parked car rear bumper when she try to park. The spot aren't even tight... For some ppl, parking sensors should be mandatory...

[Last NA]

Originally Posted by M3Dimi

So I get to work and I just noticed the entire right passenger side has a long ass scratch that may be a key or side swipe I'm thinking because it looks like it on the rear fender.... some jack ass probably got me sometime during the week I didn't really go anywhere this weekend with the M... so yea that's how my day is going...

FUCK.

This just pissed me off.

[M3Dimi]

Originally Posted by byroncheung

Man I just found a ding on my door as well this weekend. And last weekend found a scratch / paint crack on the corner on the rear bumper. So depressed...

These days I don't even park much on streets in NYC much, but still got all these. It's horrible how ppl drive. The other day when I was in Westchester Mall saw a lady bump into a parked car rear bumper when she try to park. The spot aren't even tight... For some ppl, parking sensors should be mandatory...

Seriously. Better yet some people shouldn't been handed out licenses...

[Helmsman]

Oh man that would piss me off! Will take a number of days and nights frustration to eventually fade away once you had it properly fixed.

Good luck!

[nycplumber]

I live in NYC ( Staten island) where it doesn't get any more suburan and I still get dings and scratches. I said I wouldn't get mad but I do every time. It's just upsetting when your cars scratches,scrapes and dents are all done by other people ( who I never even met) and not yourself.

[R3dliner]

Originally Posted by nycplumber

I live in NYC ( Staten island) where it doesn't get any more suburan and I still get dings and scratches. I said I wouldn't get mad but I do every time. It's just upsetting when your cars scratches,scrapes and dents are all done by other people ( who I never even met) and not yourself.

It's because you SI people live in your own bubble.

All jokes aside there are too many people driving hoopties that don't give a rats ass about other peoples properties. That is why I refuse to ever street park in the streets of NYC.

[M3Dimi]

Originally Posted by nycplumber

I live in NYC ( Staten island) where it doesn't get any more suburan and I still get dings and scratches. I said I wouldn't get mad but I do every time. It's just upsetting when your cars scratches,scrapes and dents are all done by other people ( who I never even met) and not yourself.

Exactly... it's not like we caused it... that's the shitty thing.

[GVIFlyer]

The world is full of haters. This is my most recent encounter:

I was driving my BMW M3 to Trader Joe's, along with my wife, to pick up some bananas and water. I drove from my quarters to the the store in a non-agressive manner advantaging myself of the the car's acceleration to accomplish signaled lane changes. I cut no-one off nor did any of the things that generally cause people to not wave at me with not all of their fingers.

Suddenly, there was a guy in a 10 year old Dodge Ram truck following me danger close. I parked at T.J.'s and he parked in an aggressive manner in a semi-blocking mode and came barreling out of his truck. I had slipped my Ruger LC-9 out of my wasteland and into my hand as you never know what crazy's may be up to. He approached my car, yelling, "How does it feel to be a d1ck?" I responded "FU" and saw that he was unarmed so I handed my pistol to my wife for her protection in case I came in second. He was now leaning into my car so I pushed my door open into him to put him off balance while I stood from my car.

I squared with him and once again announced "FU". He went off on some diatribe about how I liked showing off my in expensive BMW and other class envy stuff. No matter what he said my response was "FU" interspersed with "Get in your truck and drive away". I hate this kind of macho adolescent posturing while someone tries to build the courage to actually fight and was trying to say whatever necessary to accelerate the situation. As the parking lot is televised, it was essential that he make an aggressive move towards me. Though he was years younger than me and probably worked in the trades, I have taken the martial arts on and off since I was a teenager, boxed and wrestled in college, spent 25 years in the combat arms and currently go to my local TITLE Boxing Club for conditioning, besides, I know ways to end a fight very quickly. Granted, when I'm mad, I probably don't make the best decisions. Finally, in an effort to encourage him into action or end the encounter, I said the most insulting thing I could think of followed by, "Why don't you just suck my d1ck?" At that, he backed down and climbed into his truck to leave, but then circled around to take a picture of my license plate, announcing, "I've got all I need now." Pathetic attempt to save his self-esteem.

I'm not seeking your expiation as I already know that I handled this poorly, but in my defense, it angers me and I respond poorly when someone calls me a "d1ck".

A better response might have been to simply collect my wife and walk away.

...or to respond to his initial remark of, "How does it fell to be a d!ck", with "I don't know, you tell me." Followed by, "Let's talk about what your problem actually is - you're concerned that your penis is too small; compared to the cute blonde in my car, your wife is a skank, and you can't afford an $80,000 car, nor a $750,000 house, so you are trying to express your impotent rage to someone who can; sorry about your penis."

[M3Dimi]

Originally Posted by GVFlyer

The world is full of haters. This is my most recent encounter:

I was driving my BMW M3 to Trader Joe's, along with my wife, to pick up some bananas and water. I drove from my quarters to the the store in a non-agressive manner advantaging myself of the the car's acceleration to accomplish signaled lane changes. I cut no-one off nor did any of the things that generally cause people to not wave at me with not all of their fingers.

Suddenly, there was a guy in a 10 year old Dodge Ram truck following me danger close. I parked at T.J.'s and he parked in an aggressive manner in a semi-blocking mode and came barreling out of his truck. I had slipped my Ruger LC-9 out of my wasteland and into my hand as you never know what crazy's may be up to. He approached my car, yelling, "How does it feel to be a d1ck?" I responded "FU" and saw that he was unarmed so I handed my pistol to my wife for her protection in case I came in second. He was now leaning into my car so I pushed my door open into him to put him off balance while I stood from my car.

I squared with him and once again announced "FU". He went off on some diatribe about how I liked showing off my in expensive BMW and other class envy stuff. No matter what he said my response was "FU" interspersed with "Get in your truck and drive away". I hate this kind of macho adolescent posturing while someone tries to build the courage to actually fight and was trying to say whatever necessary to accelerate the situation. As the parking lot is televised, it was essential that he make an aggressive move towards me. Though he was years younger than me and probably worked in the trades, I have taken the martial arts on and off since I was a teenager, boxed and wrestled in college, spent 25 years in the combat arms and currently go to my local TITLE Boxing Club for conditioning, besides, I know ways to end a fight very quickly. Granted, when I'm mad, I probably don't make the best decisions. Finally, in an effort to encourage him into action, I said the most insulting thing I could think of followed by, "Why don't you just suck my d1ck?" At that, he backed down and climbed into his truck to leave, but then circled around to take a picture of my license plate, announcing, "I've got all I need now." Pathetic attempt to save his self-esteem.

I'm not seeking your expiation as I already know that I handled this poorly, but in my defense, it angers me and I respond poorly when someone calls me a "d1ck".

A better response might have been to simply collect my wife and walk away.

...or to respond to his initial remark of, "How does it fell to be a d!ck", with "I don't know, you tell me." Followed by, "Let's talk about what your problem actually is - you're concerned that your penis is too small; compared to the cute blonde in my car, your wife is a skank, and you can't afford an $80,000 car, nor a $750,000 house, so you are trying to express your impotent rage to someone who can; sorry about your penis."

Lmao yea I haven't had that happen lol worst I've encountered were just idiots in trucks trying to ride my ass on the freeway which I easily get out of by putting my foot down and leaving their ass in the dust lol. That's pretty crazy tho lol!

[Flying Ace]

Originally Posted by GVFlyer

The world is full of haters. This is my most recent encounter:

I was driving my BMW M3 to Trader Joe's, along with my wife, to pick up some bananas and water. I drove from my quarters to the the store in a non-agressive manner advantaging myself of the the car's acceleration to accomplish signaled lane changes. I cut no-one off nor did any of the things that generally cause people to not wave at me with not all of their fingers.

Suddenly, there was a guy in a 10 year old Dodge Ram truck following me danger close. I parked at T.J.'s and he parked in an aggressive manner in a semi-blocking mode and came barreling out of his truck. I had slipped my Ruger LC-9 out of my wasteland and into my hand as you never know what crazy's may be up to. He approached my car, yelling, "How does it feel to be a d1ck?" I responded "FU" and saw that he was unarmed so I handed my pistol to my wife for her protection in case I came in second. He was now leaning into my car so I pushed my door open into him to put him off balance while I stood from my car.

I squared with him and once again announced "FU". He went off on some diatribe about how I liked showing off my in expensive BMW and other class envy stuff. No matter what he said my response was "FU" interspersed with "Get in your truck and drive away". I hate this kind of macho adolescent posturing while someone tries to build the courage to actually fight and was trying to say whatever necessary to accelerate the situation. As the parking lot is televised, it was essential that he make an aggressive move towards me. Though he was years younger than me and probably worked in the trades, I have taken the martial arts on and off since I was a teenager, boxed and wrestled in college, spent 25 years in the combat arms and currently go to my local TITLE Boxing Club for conditioning, besides, I know ways to end a fight very quickly. Granted, when I'm mad, I probably don't make the best decisions. Finally, in an effort to encourage him into action or end the encounter, I said the most insulting thing I could think of followed by, "Why don't you just suck my d1ck?" At that, he backed down and climbed into his truck to leave, but then circled around to take a picture of my license plate, announcing, "I've got all I need now." Pathetic attempt to save his self-esteem.

I'm not seeking your expiation as I already know that I handled this poorly, but in my defense, it angers me and I respond poorly when someone calls me a "d1ck".

A better response might have been to simply collect my wife and walk away.

...or to respond to his initial remark of, "How does it fell to be a d!ck", with "I don't know, you tell me." Followed by, "Let's talk about what your problem actually is - you're concerned that your penis is too small; compared to the cute blonde in my car, your wife is a skank, and you can't afford an $80,000 car, nor a $750,000 house, so you are trying to express your impotent rage to someone who can; sorry about your penis."

classic road rage. You handled it well, especially if you're a hot head yourself.

Obviously, hindsight is 20-20, but the best solution would be to just say sorry, and walk away. Yes, you said "sorry", but it means nothing to deescalate the situation and your wife isn't going to say you're the lesser man. Remember, you have a responsibility to take care of your household now.

Also, I know you have a legal carry permit, but it's always best to not brandish the gun in any threatening manner, which I agree you did. But sometimes, it can be misconstrued and further escalate the situation. Worst case, the guy took a picture of your plate and can make a "false" police report stating you threatened him. So this situation cuts both ways. Maybe the best way is to just say "back off, I have a gun and am will use it in self defense.".

[GVIFlyer]

Originally Posted by Flying Ace

classic road rage. You handled it well, especially if you're a hot head yourself.

Obviously, hindsight is 20-20, but the best solution would be to just say sorry, and walk away. Yes, you said "sorry", but it means nothing to deescalate the situation and your wife isn't going to say you're the lesser man. Remember, you have a responsibility to take care of your household now.

Also, I know you have a legal carry permit, but it's always best to not brandish the gun in any threatening manner, which I agree you did. But sometimes, it can be misconstrued and further escalate the situation. Worst case, the guy took a picture of your plate and can make a "false" police report stating you threatened him. So this situation cuts both ways. Maybe the best way is to just say "back off, I have a gun and am will use it in self defense.".

Copy that. Thanks for your comments. Just to clarify, impotent rage guy never saw my weapon.

I did, however, have the knife in this picture in my pocket.

[loveskiing]

I am saddened that too many people think of needing firearms to protect themselves against "the other". All too often that's exactly the recipe for violence that can lead to death and legal problems. I find situations like that challenging but for a different reason. I work hard to deescalate rather than escalade regardless of whatever training I may have had or professional work that would assist me physically. It's rare that I'm not successful in descalating situations so that both parties can walk away rather than needing to resort to violence or threats of violence.
The person who can contain themselves in these situations almost always comes out on top.
OP, sorry to hear about your damage, perhaps the one thing to focus on is that no one was injured, and the car can be repaired. Good luck...

[GVIFlyer]

Originally Posted by loveskiing

I am saddened that too many people think of needing firearms to protect themselves against "the other". All too often that's exactly the recipe for violence that can lead to death and legal problems. I find situations like that challenging but for a different reason. I work hard to deescalate rather than escalade regardless of whatever training I may have had or professional work that would assist me physically. It's rare that I'm not successful in descalating situations so that both parties can walk away rather than needing to resort to violence or threats of violence.
The person who can contain themselves in these situations almost always comes out on top.
...

If that is an oblique criticism of my performance in the face of a raging idiot, I suggested in my post other courses that I could have followed, that obviating that the fact that I am pathologically male, would have been better choices.

I carried a weapon professionally for 26 years and it saved my life or the life of others more than once.

Looking at your experience, it seems unlikely that you have encountered the type of hot-headed crazy that proclaims, "Kill me now. Go ahead and shoot me, I don't care" while he aggressively charges you. If it is in your wheelhouse, remember the "7 meter rule"?

[Flying Ace]

Originally Posted by loveskiing

I am saddened that too many people think of needing firearms to protect themselves against "the other". All too often that's exactly the recipe for violence that can lead to death and legal problems. I find situations like that challenging but for a different reason. I work hard to deescalate rather than escalade regardless of whatever training I may have had or professional work that would assist me physically. It's rare that I'm not successful in descalating situations so that both parties can walk away rather than needing to resort to violence or threats of violence.
The person who can contain themselves in these situations almost always comes out on top.
OP, sorry to hear about your damage, perhaps the one thing to focus on is that no one was injured, and the car can be repaired. Good luck...

I think everyone agrees with you, when you review the situation with a level head. But when you're in the heat of the situation, people don't think clearly or straight. Maybe an ex-soldier like GVFlyer has better training during his military days to think clearly in stressful situations.

Seperately, your posts tend to escalate all situations on M3post...why do you do that? What if someone had a virtual gun and virtually shoots you?

[BanjoPaterson]

Originally Posted by GVFlyer

If that is an oblique criticism of my performance in the face of a raging idiot, I suggested in my post other courses that I could have followed, that obviating that the fact that I am pathologically male, would have been better choices.

I'm a hot head too (according to my passengers, I think I'm rather calm and collected), but happily in Oz guns are quite rare and it's only the people who REALLY would use them and not give a ***** who typically have them... and farmers... and police.

Can't really offer advice, since I think each situation is different enough there's no real template. I think, in this instance, not backing down worked since the fellow sounds like the old school bully type (i.e. all holler no cows).

I've done martial arts since 1983 (bit earlier, if you count the year I did judo in 1973 whilst at primary school), and the one thing I've learnt is that whilst it takes a lot of sweat and tears (and broken fists and foot bones, in my case), to get a first dan; it's probably the last line of defence you'd want to rely on.

Problem with road rage is it isn't scripted.... e.g. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2004-12-1...e-death/601334 I'm sure the assailant didn't mean for the man to die... when **** happens, things can go awry

[binzville]

Originally Posted by GVFlyer

Copy that. Thanks for your comments. Just to clarify, impotent rage guy never saw my weapon.

I did, however, have the knife in this picture in my pocket.

OP, Sorry to hear about the scratches. I live in suburban socal so I usually have the choice to park far away from everyone else in parking lots.

To GVFlyer - nice Wilson Combat. Pics of other 'toys' always welcome in my book!

[M3Dimi]

Originally Posted by binzville

OP, Sorry to hear about the scratches. I live in suburban socal so I usually have the choice to park far away from everyone else in parking lots.

To GVFlyer - nice Wilson Combat. Pics of other 'toys' always welcome in my book!

Yup LA isn't New York obviously I've been there and seen what these guys are talking about lol but it's as close as you can get to it at least in the US. I live in LA to clarify.

[Scrippy]

That's messed up man, I'm sorry. I have a good relationship with my paintless dent removal guy because people in LA are dicks too. If I scratched or dented my car myself I'd almost be able to deal with it but when it's done carelessly by someone else I see red!

[M3Dimi]

Originally Posted by Scrippy

That's messed up man, I'm sorry. I have a good relationship with my paintless dent removal guy because people in LA are dicks too. If I scratched or dented my car myself I'd almost be able to deal with it but when it's done carelessly by someone else I see red!

Exactly.

[GVIFlyer]

Originally Posted by binzville

OP, Sorry to hear about the scratches. I live in suburban socal so I usually have the choice to park far away from everyone else in parking lots.

To GVFlyer - nice Wilson Combat. Pics of other 'toys' always welcome in my book!

Thanks. Seriously? At the risk of getting beat up for thread drift, I've carried the 1911 more than any other pistol, so here are some of mine.

Baer 1911 Thunder Ranch “Commanche” Special




Dan Wesson Valor


Ed Brown Cobra Carry (I'm a Cobra pilot)


Colt Special Combat Government in .38 Special


Sig Sauer 1911 Nitron


Better picture of my Wilson Combat Close Quarter Combat.