2017 X5 diesel

hawkerdriver · 03-04-2017, 09:45 AM

Does anyone know the reason why the 35d isn't available to build on BMW NA website?

I've talked to a few dealers and as most of the time, they know less then we do.

Last dealer I spoke to is that they had 4 allocations for the year....?

My best guess is that is is related to the EPA and "dieselgate"

Anyone know the details?

Cheers

TN_3 · 03-04-2017, 03:53 PM

The reason they haven't updated the BMWNA website to feature the 35d is still a mystery at this point, but they are being produced. The extent to which they are produced may indeed be limited, thus the reason they aren't openly advertising them on the site. 2017 production was delayed due to a more lengthy EPA approval process.

midlifecrisis · 03-04-2017, 04:25 PM

I ordered one a couple of weeks ago and I'm picking it up at the Performance Center on 3/27. I don't understand why it's not on the configurator. What a shame. I'm sounding like a broken record I guess, but my 2014 X5 35d is absolutely the best family vehicle I've ever owned. I'm sure the 2017 will be even better.

Jenya B · 03-04-2017, 04:31 PM

ordered mine in Canada will get one in the end of May when my lease ends .

2016sx5 · 03-04-2017, 10:09 PM

when look at local dealers over the state. You see at least one x5d.
They don't seem to sell fast or don't bother to update the inventory.
See comments about not finding diesel, well they are listed on the
dealers sites... What seeing more and more of is Sdrives. South
seldom sees weather needing all wheel

DETSGTSTARSKY · 03-04-2017, 10:36 PM

I actually had an order in mid August and later cancelled it after waiting for a few months. It has disappeared from the BMW NA site in September I believe. Spoke to a dealer yesterday who said they are still being produced but of course they don't even show up on the website. So it is like a big secret where they still make them but don't really want people buying them.

midlifecrisis · 03-05-2017, 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DETSGTSTARSKY

I actually had an order in mid August and later cancelled it after waiting for a few months. It has disappeared from the BMW NA site in September I believe. Spoke to a dealer yesterday who said they are still being produced but of course they don't even show up on the website. So it is like a big secret where they still make them but don't really want people buying them.

Yeah, I just don't get it. I've suggested to my dealer that they use a 35d as a demo vehicle and not tell the customer it's a diesel until the test drive is over. I'm betting people would be shocked! This powertrain is perfect for a heavy family vehicle. The combination of smoothness, power, and efficiency is unbelievable.

BMW diesels have survived the post-VW debacle witch hunt. Hopefully there are enough customers to keep them on the market. I'm a converted high revving naturally-aspirated engine fan, and I'm convinced there's no better powertrain for family vehicles when the primary mission is long distance travel. I'll admit that the hybrid might be better for vehicles used mostly for short trips. The 40e powertrain is impressive, too. But when it comes to passing a slower vehicle on a two lane rural highway, the 35d's torque is really your friend! There's so much torque, it sometimes doesn't even need to downshift when you call for more power.

After 3 years, anxiety about diesel availability is a non-issue. It can be found easily everywhere I go. Anybody shopping a for a long distance cruiser should at least try a 35d. If you don't, you'll never know what you're missing!

TallTrees · 03-05-2017, 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by midlifecrisis

Yeah, I just don't get it. I've suggested to my dealer that they use a 35d as a demo vehicle and not tell the customer it's a diesel until the test drive is over. I'm betting people would be shocked! This powertrain is perfect for a heavy family vehicle. The combination of smoothness, power, and efficiency is unbelievable.

BMW diesels have survived the post-VW debacle witch hunt. Hopefully there are enough customers to keep them on the market. I'm a converted high revving naturally-aspirated engine fan, and I'm convinced there's no better powertrain for family vehicles when the primary mission is long distance travel. I'll admit that the hybrid might be better for vehicles used mostly for short trips. The 40e powertrain is impressive, too. But when it comes to passing a slower vehicle on a two lane rural highway, the 35d's torque is really your friend! There's so much torque, it sometimes doesn't even need to downshift when you call for more power.

After 3 years, anxiety about diesel availability is a non-issue. It can be found easily everywhere I go. Anybody shopping a for a long distance cruiser should at least try a 35d. If you don't, you'll never know what you're missing!

Well said, I am a convert as well. The torque is very satisfying at low RPM. power when and where you need it. It's the perfect package to get the family and the toys to cottage country and back every weekend.

rkinra · 03-06-2017, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TallTrees

Quote:

Originally Posted by midlifecrisis

Yeah, I just don't get it. I've suggested to my dealer that they use a 35d as a demo vehicle and not tell the customer it's a diesel until the test drive is over. I'm betting people would be shocked! This powertrain is perfect for a heavy family vehicle. The combination of smoothness, power, and efficiency is unbelievable.

BMW diesels have survived the post-VW debacle witch hunt. Hopefully there are enough customers to keep them on the market. I'm a converted high revving naturally-aspirated engine fan, and I'm convinced there's no better powertrain for family vehicles when the primary mission is long distance travel. I'll admit that the hybrid might be better for vehicles used mostly for short trips. The 40e powertrain is impressive, too. But when it comes to passing a slower vehicle on a two lane rural highway, the 35d's torque is really your friend! There's so much torque, it sometimes doesn't even need to downshift when you call for more power.

After 3 years, anxiety about diesel availability is a non-issue. It can be found easily everywhere I go. Anybody shopping a for a long distance cruiser should at least try a 35d. If you don't, you'll never know what you're missing!

Well said, I am a convert as well. The torque is very satisfying at low RPM. power when and where you need it. It's the perfect package to get the family and the toys to cottage country and back every weekend.

I got one of the first 17s and I love it! I have no idea why more people aren't buying the diesel version.

I even passed up on all the incentives in Dec to get a diesel, which would have easily saved me $3k. That being said, I love my 2017 X5d.

hawkerdriver · 03-07-2017, 12:45 AM

I'm talking to a few dealers that have them in stock, however demand outnumbers supply at this point.
At best I got 3k off MSRP, some even dare to ask for a market adjustment of 5k plus

Seems that BMW NA is artificially keeping the allocations at a minimum.

TN_3 · 03-07-2017, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkinra

I got one of the first 17s and I love it! I have no idea why more people aren't buying the diesel version.

I even passed up on all the incentives in Dec to get a diesel, which would have easily saved me $3k. That being said, I love my 2017 X5d.

Same here! We love ours.

Socal2025 · 03-07-2017, 08:40 PM

I was on the fence about ordering a diesel X5 back in 2014. But after almost 3 years, I have come to really enjoy the smoothness and available torque on my 2014 X5d. I live in Southern California, so there's diesel everywhere so I never had any issues. My only negative comment about diesel is that at very low speeds, like pulling up from a stop, you tend to hear the engine more than you would on a gasoline version. Other than that, it's really an amazing engine.

Flying Ace · 03-09-2017, 01:51 PM

Joining the diesel love fest here too. Granted I have a E70 and a M57 motor vs your N57s.

Btw, you folks in SoCal and NorCal should try Propel Diesel. It's renewable stock manufactured to ASTM spec for diesel #2. The pros of using it is the ridiculously high cetane ratings. They add a bit of petro D#2 for lubricity and has better evaporative properties than D#2. It's going to be much friendlier to your DPFs when you're out of warranty like I am.

And if you're a Trump supporter you're not supporting the petro-countries as we don't need to import petro from them though we do have to import palm oil from Malaysia to make this. And it's refined here in the USA.

Or if you're a tree hugger, this fuel also reduces CO2 emissions.

And if you just care about the bottom line, b/c it's a subsidized fuel here in CA, it'll be cheaper or on par with D#2's pricing. It's currently the cheapest D#2 in the bay area today.

And before you jump all over my head about renewables, THIS IS NOT BIO-DIESEL

Here's some link for info:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1194784
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=864929
http://www.greencarreports.com/news/...yond-biodiesel
http://www.dieselhpr.com/

Van1 · 03-10-2017, 06:41 AM

2017 X5d is now on the BMW USA website.

alphaod · 03-10-2017, 01:04 PM

I noticed that as well.

Jenya B · 03-10-2017, 04:24 PM

Mine 35d in production already , my SA shows his computer there is almost 30 diesels coming to their dealership and all of them sold already .

hawkerdriver · 03-10-2017, 05:51 PM

I caved in and bought one of the lot yesterday.
Had to work hard to get almost 5 percent off the MSRP and goes against what I normally do.
However, so many dealers wouldn't budge from MSRP.
Had to have a car and It's awesome

I'll post pics this weekend.

e46e92love · 03-11-2017, 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by midlifecrisis

I ordered one a couple of weeks ago and I'm picking it up at the Performance Center on 3/27. I don't understand why it's not on the configurator. What a shame. I'm sounding like a broken record I guess, but my 2014 X5 35d is absolutely the best family vehicle I've ever owned. I'm sure the 2017 will be even better.

Amen. We just ordered another one as our 2014 lease ends in April. PCD....added the M-sport on top of handling package. The Diesel engine with this truck is the most perfect marriage of a engine and chassis I have ever encountered.....well other than the S65 and my e92

e46e92love · 03-11-2017, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hawkerdriver

I'm talking to a few dealers that have them in stock, however demand outnumbers supply at this point.
At best I got 3k off MSRP, some even dare to ask for a market adjustment of 5k plus

Seems that BMW NA is artificially keeping the allocations at a minimum.

Where are you located? I can point you to a few that have build slots and will get to 5k+ off MSRP.

PM if you think I can help.

Cheers,
e46e92

rkinra · 03-13-2017, 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by e46e92love

Quote:

Originally Posted by hawkerdriver

I'm talking to a few dealers that have them in stock, however demand outnumbers supply at this point.
At best I got 3k off MSRP, some even dare to ask for a market adjustment of 5k plus

Seems that BMW NA is artificially keeping the allocations at a minimum.

Where are you located? I can point you to a few that have build slots and will get to 5k+ off MSRP.

PM if you think I can help.

Cheers,
e46e92

Shop around... I had 2 dealers offer me invoice - incentives back in Dec when I ordered mine.

Enrico 35d · 03-16-2017, 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Socal2025

I was on the fence about ordering a diesel X5 back in 2014. But after almost 3 years, I have come to really enjoy the smoothness and available torque on my 2014 X5d. I live in Southern California, so there's diesel everywhere so I never had any issues. My only negative comment about diesel is that at very low speeds, like pulling up from a stop, you tend to hear the engine more than you would on a gasoline version. Other than that, it's really an amazing engine.

+1. I've had mine for 2 weeks now and love it

First x5 and first diesel I've ever owned . Up till now no regrets

jjrandorin · 03-16-2017, 12:28 AM

(my opinion)

They are(were?) not on the configurator because the production run is limited, AND the people that want them KNOW they want them so they dont need to advertise them.

They would / could drum up more orders for them than they can fill, so they dont put it on the configurator so that only those that really want them can get them.

They would likely say its to not disappoint people since there are limited allocations, but I would counter with limited allocations because of the diesel issues of other brands.

Maybe 2018s will have more diesel allocations for X5s? I have a 2016 X5d as the first diesel vehicle in my family, and agree its almost the perfect SUV, at least at this point.

Only worry is long term emissions issues since my wife does not drive it "hard" enough.

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jjrandorin Lieutenant 356 Rep 564 Posts Drives: 2016 435 & 2016 X5D Join Date: May 2013 Location: San Diego iTrader: (0)	(my opinion) They are(were?) not on the configurator because the production run is limited, AND the people that want them KNOW they want them so they dont need to advertise them. They would / could drum up more orders for them than they can fill, so they dont put it on the configurator so that only those that really want them can get them. They would likely say its to not disappoint people since there are limited allocations, but I would counter with limited allocations because of the diesel issues of other brands. Maybe 2018s will have more diesel allocations for X5s? I have a 2016 X5d as the first diesel vehicle in my family, and agree its almost the perfect SUV, at least at this point. Only worry is long term emissions issues since my wife does not drive it "hard" enough.
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