DCT-M, on sale now w/no performance data

[mcorliss]

Guys,

As I wait for my M3 with DCT, what gives with no performance data being available on BMW NA's website. We all agree it is going to be an amazing transmission, but why has BMW been so behind on listing hard data. It is also interesting that there is no build your own for the M3 Convertible.

Any thoughts?

Thanks.

[MDCTFTW]

Maybe BMW doesn't want a flood of orders for MDCT because there's a long wait which could potentially drive customers to the ISF, C63, S5? Maybe ...

[rai]

^that's interesting. But IDK if the DCT turns out to be the best thing since sliced bread, I don't think 'long lines' would drive people to MB or Lexus.

More like if it sucks they'd want to hide that for as long as possible since some people who prefer auto-tranny and are on the fence for the ISF or C63 would say it's not worth paying extra to get an M3 w/DCT

[goldminer]

Originally Posted by mcc3456

Guys,

As I wait for my M3 with DCT, what gives with no performance data being available on BMW NA's website. We all agree it is going to be an amazing transmission, but why has BMW been so behind on listing hard data. It is also interesting that there is no build your own for the M3 Convertible.

Any thoughts?

Thanks.

BMW quoted some performance data in the original M-DKG press release months ago. I have no idea why it is not on the NA website. It gives a 0.2 second improvement on the 0 - 100 km/hr sprint acording to the press release.

Coupe 4.8 vs. 4.6 seconds
Sedan 4.9 vs. 4.7 seconds
Convertible 5.3 vs. 5.1 seconds.

[MDCTFTW]

Originally Posted by rai

^that's interesting. But IDK if the DCT turns out to be the best thing since sliced bread, I don't think 'long lines' would drive people to MB or Lexus.

More like if it sucks they'd want to hide that for as long as possible since some people who prefer auto-tranny and are on the fence for the ISF or C63 would say it's not worth paying extra to get an M3 w/DCT

Haha ya ... I was just talking out of my ass.

[JEllis]

Originally Posted by goldminer

BMW quoted some performance data in the original M-DKG press release months ago. I have no idea why it is not on the NA website. It gives a 0.2 second improvement on the 0 - 100 km/hr sprint acording to the press release.

Coupe 4.8 vs. 4.6 seconds
Sedan 4.9 vs. 4.7 seconds
Convertible 5.3 vs. 5.1 seconds.

Word, and dont forget BMW did have a press day with the Convertable/DCT M3 at the end of March. I would imagine mag reviews will show up this month if not anytime now. However, these performance numbers from these mag tests will be for the heavy slower convertable and will not give a real indication of the improvement one might expect in the Coupe. Of course if the heavy convertable with DCT is just as fast as the Coupe with 6MT, then that would be telling.

Jason

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by JEllis

Of course if the heavy convertable with DCT is just as fast as the Coupe with 6MT, then that would be telling.

It would also be a miracle, given the coupe (and sedan) have hit 4.1s 0-60!

I do think the vert with M-DCT will probably break the 5s mark though. Perhaps 4.8s.

[RandyB]

Originally Posted by JEllis

Of course if the heavy convertable with DCT is just as fast as the Coupe with 6MT, then that would be telling.
Jason

Better compare coupe to coupe and win that one first.

[apw2607]

Theres nothing I've found yet that would suggest it "sucks" ... And I've only ever owned manual transmissions.

[footie]

Originally Posted by JEllis

Word, and dont forget BMW did have a press day with the Convertable/DCT M3 at the end of March. I would imagine mag reviews will show up this month if not anytime now. However, these performance numbers from these mag tests will be for the heavy slower convertable and will not give a real indication of the improvement one might expect in the Coupe. Of course if the heavy convertable with DCT is just as fast as the Coupe with 6MT, then that would be telling.

Jason

I already know what one magazine think after this press day event and on the most part it's all good......but not everything.

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by MDCTFTW

Haha ya ... I was just talking out of my ass.

Your breath must just be awful then.

I can't believe that we don't have a major website/car mag review of the M-DCT.

[swamp2]

Originally Posted by footie

I already know what one magazine think after this press day event and on the most part it's all good......but not everything.

Foot, what is the point of having and not sharing such wonderful privileged inside knowledge. Will you make us beg for some details?

___FOOT

[Keto]

Originally Posted by swamp2

Foot, what is the point of having and not sharing such wonderful privileged inside knowledge. Will you make us beg for some details?

___FOOT

The point is to make you beg.

[Big Windy]

I don't want to sound fatalistic here, but I think that this is just another mistake in the line of many that BMW has experienced with the launch of the M3. From my perspective, they have made some poor decisions in regards to marketing, planning, and production. Still love the car and they still are doing a good job, but they have lost some of their attention to detail and could have done better in a couple of areas.

[gorun]

I wanna see the DCT 0-200 time.

[rai]

Originally Posted by Keto

The point is to make you beg.

thanks for a big fat nothing Foot.

Some people are waiting to decide and you may have some useful info (or not) and instead of saying something useful you say something useless.




We're all still waiting for a legitamate press review of the DCT.

[footie]

Sorry but it's up to the guy himself to chime in with his thoughts and is definitely not my place to speak on his behalf.

But like I said his opinion was very positive on the whole.

[skierman64]

Originally Posted by gorun

I wanna see the DCT 0-200 time.

I assume you mean K not MPH.

[skierman64]

I have my DCT and love it. It doesn't matter what the magazines say at this point for me.

[adamr]

Originally Posted by skierman64

I have my DCT and love it. It doesn't matter what the magazines say at this point for me.

are there reviews out on it? ...

[DonM3]

no not yet.

I think member steved is meant to be playing around with a E93 DCT car this week???

Originally Posted by adamr

are there reviews out on it? ...

[ersin]

Originally Posted by DonM3

no not yet.

I think member steved is meant to be playing around with a E93 DCT car this week???

Yea, too bad it's the vert. Like they were saying above, some will take the slow times reported for the heavier E93 DCT and apply this to the whole M3 line and say DCT sux. I'm still hoping it's going to do better than BMW reports, especially since the coupe and sedan did much better than BMW's numbers. But I am sure those guys in the UK are going to have some fun.