Why does the competition package exist?

[rallybull]

Why does every M3 not behave the way an M3 with competition package behaves? BMW "fixed" a lot of issues with the early year M3s and called it a competition package???
Does it really cost BMW anything more to produce an M3 with the competition package compared to the base "tail-happy" M3?

[domino_z]

the cost to bmw would have been in the r&d

everything after recovering that r&d cost is called profit.....keeps the lights on

[stormlv]

The competition package isn't just about small fixes right?

It adds the upgraded exhaust (which is a pretty expensive option taken alone), different seats, new wheels and has the m adaptive suspension included by default.

[Arcades]

One word.

Profit.

Any car company needs to make money and profit. That is it. Regardless of how much you whine that won't ever change. Have you read the article regarding how much Porsche makes in a car they sell? All of their profits come from options off of their cars. Of course Porsche can easily add those into their cars, but they won't because that is where they generate the most from each car sell.

[48Laws]

Upsell.

[HighlyMedicated]

Comp Pkg also has stiffer springs, shocks, and anti-roll bars, along with a more tuned adaptive suspension and differential is also tuned from the M factory. Small changes other than the rims, seats, 19hp increase and only $5500 more seems worth it to some and not to everyone thats why they charge for it, profit is always a reason as well. Of course it costs BMW something they need to develop different parts that aren't just an update to the cars computer.

If you want a model thats ready to go there is the CS version M but that costs way way more than a M with CP, due to more RandD and im sure different parts on the car as well.
The M is for the mass public so they offer many different ways to get the car. Its not as specialized or exclusive like the 911R which is also more rare than a normal 911, CP isn't more rare its just another option! Theres now an M pkg for the 7 series, M isn't full race mode just a lot more sporty!! The CPis never available in the first years of the car since they refine it over the years after it comes out then a pkg is available. A Lightweight model may come out same year but many things are taken off the car to make it lightweight not per say more tuned or not besides a wing and rims like the E46! A normal M is perfect you won't even need a CP model but to some you do. My CP is more tail happy than my non CP what do you mean, both are over 425hp and RWD!

Such a random question, I thought it would be more common sense than a need for a thread!

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by rallybull

BMW "fixed" a lot of issues with the early year M3s and called it a competition package???

No. Nothing was broken. Just as the existence of the new M4 CS does not mean the competition package is broken.

Does it really cost BMW anything more to produce an M3 with the competition package compared to the base "tail-happy" M3?

Does it really cost $15k more to produce an M3 than a 340i? Does really it cost $30k more to produce an M4 CS than an M3? Does it cost twice as much to produce an M4 GTS as it does an M3?

Goods aren't priced by determining the minimum amount they can sell for while still being profitable. They are priced by determining the maximum amount they can sell for such that the sales rate yields the most profit.

[HighlyMedicated]

A product sells for a certain amount for a reason! They don't make the number up lol ! Actual cost of product, number expected to be sold, costs from R&D, and cost of marketing and retail stores are some reasons a product is sold at a certain price! Most car companies don't make much money per car but the volume of cars sold. Some car companies lose money actually on special models just to get their name in the press!!!

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[RickFLM4]

Same reason as any other option offered - because some people see the value in it and are willing to pay for it and others do not.

There are plenty of people who got their cars before CP was offered and are perfectly happy with them so it stands to reason that others can buy without CP now and be happy. Despite auto press reviews and some forum testimonials, CP is not essential to enjoying the car. Nothing wrong with getting it and nothing wrong with skipping it or any other option.

[FC]

The ZCP has always been a way to revitalize the model, get some press, and add a little extra performance with cosmetic tweaks to match.

In the F8X gen, there were some gripes by the press and owners. The ZCP allowed BMW the opportunity to try to address them. Had the F8X been called perfect from the start, there still would have been a ZCP.

[gatorfast]

It exists because people will buy it. How else would BMW so easily get people to trade-in their still basically new early year models for an "upgraded" version?

[Who's on first]

Originally Posted by stormlv

The competition package isn't just about small fixes right?

It adds the upgraded exhaust (which is a pretty expensive option taken alone), different seats, new wheels and has the m adaptive suspension included by default.

I feel you think to competition Package comes with MPE, it does not. Comes with a sport exhaust. You don?t (typically) buy that as an upgrade.

[HighlyMedicated]

The sports exhaust looks the same as a non CP as well, maybe internals a little changed for sound but I believe the 19hp is from the ecu and more boost no? It does come with black tips tho, or mine did if its 2017 and newer. 2016 doesn't come with shadow kit one 16' owner told me so tips still chrome.

[Wah]

Originally Posted by HighlyMedicated

The sports exhaust looks the same as a non CP as well, maybe internals a little changed for sound but I believe the 19hp is from the ecu and more boost no? It does come with black tips tho, or mine did if its 2017 and newer. 2016 doesn't come with shadow kit one 16' owner told me so tips still chrome.

CP always came with black exhaust tips and black trunk badge. It adds 8HP. Fact.

[nicknaz]

///Marketing

[tastes jigga]

It's all about timing and double selling to customers. How many of us buy multiple versions of what is essentially the same car? I for one bought a 435i and then an M4 LCI ZCP. If BMW didn't create multiple models, they would likely sell less. If they released them all at the same time, they would also likely sell less.

If I was really rich, I would have gotten the 2014 435i, then the 2015 M4, then the 2016 M4 ZCP, and then the 2018 M4 ZCP LCI. That's four of nearly the same car to one customer. But if they were all released at once, I would only buy the ZCP LCI. Notice I left the GTS and CS out as they only come with the DCT, but for others it could be as many as 6 purchases (hypothetically). Just my $0.02.

[HighlyMedicated]

Originally Posted by Wah

CP always came with black exhaust tips and black trunk badge. It adds 8HP. Fact.

Thanks for the clarification, I guess when I asked if his tips were black he thought it meant full black not black chrome? I have seen his car and he has the 666 rims as a 2016 model, I just didn't inspect it any further thats why I stated from a 16' year owner and not both years! He didn't even know which tune he had either, he said he paid 2500 for it so I'm assuming dinan but he doesn't know. He's just a bodyguard for a store in los feliz, if you know you know... GW! Hes cool dude always jocked my old M, he got same color Alpine White, but at least know the mods on your car! Either way dumb of me, dumb of other owner, but overall its fact and my cars fiction! Theres more black on the car than those two, or do you not have one to notice, cause once you go black....you never go back!

[shockin330i]

I like mine
Would buy again

[stormlv]

Originally Posted by Who's on first

I feel you think to competition Package comes with MPE, it does not. Comes with a sport exhaust. You don?t (typically) buy that as an upgrade.

Sorry if the wording was unclear, but yes, I know it didn't came with the MPE, which is why i said it came with the "upgraded" exhaust.
What I meant to say is if you were to upgrade from a base exhaust, you'd need to spend significant amount of money either for an MPE or some aftermarket stuff.

[Flacht3]

Originally Posted by rallybull

Does it really cost BMW anything more to produce an M3 with the competition package compared to the base "tail-happy" M3?

I personally like my tail-happy M.

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by rallybull

Why does every M3 not behave the way an M3 with competition package behaves? BMW "fixed" a lot of issues with the early year M3s and called it a competition package???
Does it really cost BMW anything more to produce an M3 with the competition package compared to the base "tail-happy" M3?

Cost is for R&D .. Of course the price tag is ridiculous

[drkeng]

I have been agonizing over this question, too.