NY passes SLEEP act to limit exhaust noise

White340 · 10-31-2021, 09:25 AM

https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/vid...ing-down-noisy

Just as I was about to buy the M performance exhaust…. Im not sure what happens here since the MPE isn't exactly aftermarket..

Looks like 60 decibals will be the limit.

swagon · 10-31-2021, 09:33 AM

It's original BMW equipment and could be ordered as such from factory

Tangent · 10-31-2021, 07:44 PM

60 db?!? That better be measured from a long ways off or be an idle measurement. California's limit that is known to get people tickets even with stock exhausts is 95dB. 60dB is typically described as "normal conversation" volumes.

ONEof500 · 10-31-2021, 07:47 PM

The douches running around with straight pipes screw it up for the rest of us. This is why we can't have nice things.

White340 · 10-31-2021, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Tangent

60 db?!? That better be measured from a long ways off or be an idle measurement. California's limit that is known to get people tickets even with stock exhausts is 95dB. 60dB is typically described as "normal conversation" volumes.

Looking into it deeper you're right. The 60db limit is too low. Can't find factual info on the actual limit.

9M71 · 10-31-2021, 09:20 PM

Not really worried. I doubt there will be any enforcement (in NYC itself) if you don't drive like an asshat on the daily, or run one of those obnoxious 18 year old popcorn everyone look at me tunes.

Also this is when the valve controller comes in handy. What exhaust?

six75LT · 10-31-2021, 09:43 PM

karens win again

TractionControlDelete · 10-31-2021, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ONEof500

The douches running around with straight pipes screw it up for the rest of us. This is why we can't have nice things.

It's those damn gu|\|shot tunes and ridiculous burble tunes that completely ruined it. Now that tweedle dee has enacted this, I'm sure tweedle dumb (read: California) will be right behind them

Humdizzle · 11-01-2021, 02:01 AM

They should start with banning Harleys first.

deemack79 · 11-01-2021, 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by 9M71

Not really worried. I doubt there will be any enforcement (in NYC itself) if you don't drive like an asshat on the daily, or run one of those obnoxious 18 year old popcorn everyone look at me tunes.

Also this is when the valve controller comes in handy. What exhaust?

Facts. I'm catless, AA mid, and Remus muffler. Needless to say it's loud. But, valves closed it's much quieter than a completely stock setup. 🤷

White340 · 11-01-2021, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Humdizzle

They should start with banning Harleys first.

Yeah I don't get this. These bikes are way louder and more annoying than car mufflers.

zorrro · 11-01-2021, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by 9M71

Not really worried. I doubt there will be any enforcement (in NYC itself) if you don't drive like an asshat on the daily, or run one of those obnoxious 18 year old popcorn everyone look at me tunes.

Also this is when the valve controller comes in handy. What exhaust?

I hope you are right. I have just AA midpipe and with valves closed it's very quiet.

Funny thing is I haven't tinted my F80 since rules change but yet it seems like 1 in 5 cars I see with NY plates are tinted

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e90335e36m3 · 11-01-2021, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ONEof500

The douches running around with straight pipes screw it up for the rest of us. This is why we can't have nice things.

How about the douches running around in Harleys? Those POSs are louder stock than most modified cars. They make noise for the sake of making noise.

TractionControlDelete · 11-01-2021, 11:42 AM

Part of the rationale is that loud exhausts "affects your sense of wellbeing and the wellbeing of your family." What the actual hell is going on over there lol

Must be some really weak spirited people for their "wellbeing" to be threatened by a muffler delete

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**Apparently, it does apply to motorcycles as well

clutchdj · 11-01-2021, 12:09 PM

More unclear NY legislation. Is this the NYC/5 boroughs, or the entire state? No way to enforce all the noise in NYC, there's too many people. Seems like this law is for the asshats with worst kind of burble tune.

G35POPPEDMYCHERRY · 11-01-2021, 12:46 PM

just another vague law that will be enforced sometimes, how councilman become mayors.

evoix · 11-01-2021, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by G35POPPEDMYCHERRY

just another vague law that will be enforced sometimes, how councilman become mayors.

Exactly. Will be enforced for about 4 months. Then it will all depend on how bad a day each cop is having.

This is all because of these stupid burble tunes. That includes all you infiniti/Bmw /Mercedes burble fanboys. Ruined it for the real car enthusiasts

R N M · 11-01-2021, 06:05 PM

Another tool for revenue generation!

Is there not more pressing issues like Education, Crime, Homelessness all deeply affecting NY?! Ah but can’t make $$$ fining a homeless person 😤

No wonder everyone is moving down south or to Texas.

D_SheerDrivingPleasure · 11-01-2021, 07:17 PM

Not a revenue source.

This is about electeds proposing "quality of life" legislation to get in office. Car people are easy targets like real estate developers (unfortunately I'm both, but the good kind).

Near term, I wouldn't worry unless your tint is dark, ride slammed, tires stretched, camber / \, and bass deep.

Long term we're screwed. It's a slippery slope.

White340 · 11-01-2021, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by D_SheerDrivingPleasure

Not a revenue source.

This is about electeds proposing "quality of life" legislation to get in office. Car people are easy targets like real estate developers (unfortunately I'm both, but the good kind).

Near term, I wouldn't worry unless your tint is dark, ride slammed, tires stretched, camber / \, and bass deep.

Long term we're screwed. It's a slippery slope.

Long term is electric anyway. Think my will stop selling ice by 2035

TractionControlDelete · 11-01-2021, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by evoix

Quote:

Originally Posted by G35POPPEDMYCHERRY

just another vague law that will be enforced sometimes, how councilman become mayors.

Exactly. Will be enforced for about 4 months. Then it will all depend on how bad a day each cop is having.

This is all because of these stupid burble tunes. That includes all you infiniti/Bmw /Mercedes burble fanboys. Ruined it for the real car enthusiasts

Please don't forget the 392 guys! They're the Harley's of the car world

Tangent · 11-02-2021, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Humdizzle

They should start with banning Harleys first.

"It's for safety; loud pipes save lives!" - Always said by the guy wearing denim and the smallest most worthless helmet they could find with a 'helmet laws suck' sticker on it.

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