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      02-01-2022, 02:03 PM   #1
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Absurd money offered for my 2017 M3 Comp

So...I haven't had a particularly robust interest in the new G80 M3, until two things happened:

-I drove the new M3 XDrive last week

-Someone I had spoken to when I bought my car last year had told me it was their "favorite spec/color combo, etc" and just offered me NUTTY money ($57.5k) for mine!


First the G80 - it's INSANE. Truly. I have 2021 X3M40 and love it, even though I wondered if I'd like the AutoBox. Fast as all get out, and even with the Auto, it shifts so quick, so smoothly. Well, the G80 M3 X Drive is that on GOBS of steroids! I would give the DCT in my M3 a 4.5 rating and honestly the Auto in the G80 M3X a solid 4.25. It's excellent. Power is NUTS, I mean seriously, and it feels heavier, yeah, but still incredibly nimble and more planted, more connected steering than F80.

As for the F80 (potential) sale...this dude is a bit of a wingnut, and has ample $$ and likes toys, but even the dealer I bought my X3 M40 from, after I put out a feeler a month ago, said they could go 50k on my M3 (with 58k miles by the way!!) so there are def some crazy high numbers out there still on these cars.

I guess the question is...would you sell your F80 with 58k miles, put 10K profit in your pocket (payoff is approx 48K) and buy the G80XDrive, or keep the F80?? Gotta say, the styling (especially in black) of the new M3 has grown on me a bit, and Xdrive + newer tech, the exact color combo I want...decisions!!
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MMR on a 2017 M3 with 58k is... *drumroll*... 50k. Looks like they went with that and ran, so the offer of 57.5 is solid.

To be fair 58k is VERY high on a M3 for the year/miles. Market is starting to adjust.

As for the G80... It could be better than a LaFerrari, Veryron... whatever. Dont care. Its hideous and I cant take it seriously when I see that front end. I just laugh.
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MMR on a 2017 M3 with 58k is... *drumroll*... 50k. Looks like they went with that and ran, so the offer of 57.5 is solid.

To be fair 58k is VERY high on a M3 for the year/miles. Market is starting to adjust.

As for the G80... It could be better than a LaFerrari, Veryron... whatever. Dont care. Its hideous and I cant take it seriously when I see that front end. I just laugh.
I'll admit that with the black grille and other exterior colors it sticks out in ways that aren't flattering lol, but in the color combo I'd choose (Met black with orange interior) I am not really bothered by it. Plus, and this can't be overstated, the driving experience is bananas
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I'll admit that with the black grille and other exterior colors it sticks out in ways that aren't flattering lol, but in the color combo I'd choose (Met black with orange interior) I am not really bothered by it. Plus, and this can't be overstated, the driving experience is bananas
I don't doubt it, love the interior also. Someone comes out with a solid aftermarket bump/front end solution or the LCI looks better im down.
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Can you get a G80 allocation or get one in stock for a decent price? That would be a huge factor in deciding IMO. Barring that, if you like the car then go for it. Your offer does seem quite optimistic so it's a good one to take... I think regular F80s will always be available and you can always come back to it; they're definitely on a bit of a high right now.
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I'd take the sale if you really want to move on to something else, but I'd personally skip the G80.
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Can you get a G80 allocation or get one in stock for a decent price? That would be a huge factor in deciding IMO. Barring that, if you like the car then go for it. Your offer does seem quite optimistic so it's a good one to take... I think regular F80s will always be available and you can always come back to it; they're definitely on a bit of a high right now.
From what I am hearing it's hit or miss, with some dealers saying "no chance anytime soon" and others saying "we can have them available" so if I consider it then need to do a little more homework. I have seen posts where peeps claim dealers have told them on the sly that they "aren't selling well" but haven't really seen that play out in real life lol
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Not sure why you’re asking the f8x crowd?
Sounds like you’ve got the money and the desire to own a bucktooth pig because the driving experience is bananas. You’d be silly not to follow through with the plan you’ve outlined truthfully it sounds like a winner for you.
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desire to own a bucktooth pig


I mean, I'm intrigued by it, sure. We can't all just base everything on looks right? Part of the reason we buy a certain car is aesthetics, but if it looks only decent vs. flat-out sexy AND drives insane, that seems to be a good combo. We're not talking a 700HP, laser handling Pontiac Aztek here or a Supercharged PT Cruiser
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All this time I thought M owners were interested in great performance and a vehicle that is truly the jack of all trades but in reality I'm dealing with a bunch of art students

The only thing that matters is that you like the aesthetics of the G80 OP. The xdrive G8X as a daily driver seems fantastic, and the performance is bonkers, so I would take the deal.
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Your mileage is fairly high, so I'd sell it and pocket the profit. Definitely would not recommend purchasing a g8x, depreciation will follow this model it's whole lifespan.
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Your mileage is fairly high, so I'd sell it and pocket the profit. Definitely would not recommend purchasing a g8x, depreciation will follow this model it's whole lifespan.
depreciation follows all mass produced cars

It seems like Covid car pricing has made people think the F8X somehow will not depreciate like any other M car. It will. It'll be at sub 20k like any prior M generation once we lose the Covid pricing madness that affects all cars now.
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Your mileage is fairly high, so I'd sell it and pocket the profit. Definitely would not recommend purchasing a g8x, depreciation will follow this model it's whole lifespan.
depreciation follows all mass produced cars

It seems like Covid car pricing has made people think the F8X somehow will not depreciate like any other M car. It will. It'll be at sub 20k like any prior M generation once we lose the Covid pricing madness that affects all cars now.
Not saying f8x doesn't also depreciate. It will more likely remain well regarded down the road where the g8x will be forgettable at best.
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I mean, I'm intrigued by it, sure. We can't all just base everything on looks right? Part of the reason we buy a certain car is aesthetics, but if it looks only decent vs. flat-out sexy AND drives insane, that seems to be a good combo. We're not talking a 700HP, laser handling Pontiac Aztek here or a Supercharged PT Cruiser
I mean I did say you should sell your M3 and buy a G 80 sounds like you have a good start…so I’m actually trying to be a little supportive of you while giving you a slight jab in the ribs.


To your original question… my answer is no I wouldn’t sell a my f80 and buy a g80.
Fair enough?
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I mean, I'm intrigued by it, sure. We can't all just base everything on looks right? Part of the reason we buy a certain car is aesthetics, but if it looks only decent vs. flat-out sexy AND drives insane, that seems to be a good combo. We're not talking a 700HP, laser handling Pontiac Aztek here or a Supercharged PT Cruiser
I would sell the F80 if you want the money, but no way I'd get a G80. I'd rather get a M340i just to not see the buck tooth everyday. And yes, as a guy I certain things on looks alone.
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Wouldn't matter if the G8x could fly, make me tacos, and shoot laser beams… nothing is worth having to shield my eyes every time I approach it for fear of losing my lunch.
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The f80 clan hates g80's look more than any other people you'll ever meet. Same way the e90 clan hates the f80's exhaust and sound.

I'll admit the f80 is the better looking car but I'm still a fan of the g80 exterior.

The g80 is a much better car than the f80 all around in every way fathomable except exterior.

I'd ditch the f80 and get a g80 especially considering the finances. Also, it probably won't cost you much. Over the next 3-4 years a new g80 won't depreciate that much more than a f80 (assuming a current 57.5k valuation that you're getting).

If the f80 was selling for 50k; then yeah the g80 would be a lot more expensive.

Not to mention maintenance and repairs on a out of warranty car.

Get the g80. Or at least sell the f80 to the crazy guy willing to pay 57.5k for it.

What's the color combo anyway?
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So...I haven't had a particularly robust interest in the new G80 M3, until two things happened:

-I drove the new M3 XDrive last week

-Someone I had spoken to when I bought my car last year had told me it was their "favorite spec/color combo, etc" and just offered me NUTTY money ($57.5k) for mine!


First the G80 - it's INSANE. Truly. I have 2021 X3M40 and love it, even though I wondered if I'd like the AutoBox. Fast as all get out, and even with the Auto, it shifts so quick, so smoothly. Well, the G80 M3 X Drive is that on GOBS of steroids! I would give the DCT in my M3 a 4.5 rating and honestly the Auto in the G80 M3X a solid 4.25. It's excellent. Power is NUTS, I mean seriously, and it feels heavier, yeah, but still incredibly nimble and more planted, more connected steering than F80.

As for the F80 (potential) sale...this dude is a bit of a wingnut, and has ample $$ and likes toys, but even the dealer I bought my X3 M40 from, after I put out a feeler a month ago, said they could go 50k on my M3 (with 58k miles by the way!!) so there are def some crazy high numbers out there still on these cars.

I guess the question is...would you sell your F80 with 58k miles, put 10K profit in your pocket (payoff is approx 48K) and buy the G80XDrive, or keep the F80?? Gotta say, the styling (especially in black) of the new M3 has grown on me a bit, and Xdrive + newer tech, the exact color combo I want...decisions!!
I ended up trading my M3 CS with equity for a 2022 M4 Comp X-Drive and I have no regrets! However, the F80 is still wonderful, I don't think there is a wrong decision here. I also chose to move into the G8X for the X-Drive.



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Can you get a G80 allocation or get one in stock for a decent price? That would be a huge factor in deciding IMO. Barring that, if you like the car then go for it. Your offer does seem quite optimistic so it's a good one to take... I think regular F80s will always be available and you can always come back to it; they're definitely on a bit of a high right now.
Right now there is a big delay in production due to the RAM chip shortage. Orders are being delayed for 2022. I managed to get an allocation and production date in November and finally took delivery last week. I got very lucky with an immediate allocation and only 2% interest markup while many are on wait lists or seeing $10k markups. It takes a good relationship with your CA and some shopping around. Some people are still waiting from orders from last summer!!

I think you hit the nail on the head on the F80. If my experience with my G82 is less than ideal, I can always get a nicely depreciated F80 next year. This was the perfect time to sell with the inflated prices. Sell high, buy low.
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I would sell the F80 if you want the money, but no way I'd get a G80. I'd rather get a M340i just to not see the buck tooth everyday. And yes, as a guy I certain things on looks alone.
Respectfully disagree. The M340i is offensively boring in the looks department. IMHO of course. I'm sure there are M340i owners who love their car.
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Right now there is a big delay in production due to the RAM chip shortage. Orders are being delayed for 2022. I managed to get an allocation and production date in November and finally took delivery last week. I got very lucky with an immediate allocation and only 2% interest markup while many are on wait lists or seeing $10k markups. It takes a good relationship with your CA and some shopping around. Some people are still waiting from orders from last summer!!

I think you hit the nail on the head on the F80. If my experience with my G82 is less than ideal, I can always get a nicely depreciated F80 next year. This was the perfect time to see with the inflated prices. Sell high, buy low.
Yeah there's a thread on G8X boards about no more CF roofs for 2022. Shortages suck, feel bad for everyone who's on the hook waiting. I hope production and supply issues are sorted out by the time the CSs roll out, otherwise that nameplate will become like unobtanium with massive markups which would be a shame. But for selfish reasons I guess that wouldn't be the worst outcome.
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Get what you like. If the g80 is something you like go for it. Personally, I find it offensive to look at and no amount of superior performance can overcome that...but that's me. If the Lotus Emira was ready to go right now, I'd unload my f82 and never look back at BMW ever again.
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