Front-Axle Lift Options?

slcook54 · 02-23-2022, 02:37 PM

Hi All,

I have an M3 CS inbound and have a steep driveway. I don't think it will currently clear and am wondering about the options for a front-axle lift system. I found this old video through a search and connected with Golan @ Autotalent, who I've worked with in the past, but he sadly informed me that KW discontinued their HLS system. I'm curious if anyone has figured out another solution? RugbyBro

N1rve · 02-23-2022, 03:28 PM

I bought wider tires to clear my driveway. I didn't want to lose my Adaptive suspension.

G35POPPEDMYCHERRY · 02-23-2022, 03:31 PM

on this note when i turn onto a steep incline, it always seems that one of my front tires is slipping? is this the LSD?

Taylorsherk · 02-23-2022, 04:46 PM

There’s a few threads and vids on Air Cup systems that lift the front end to clear steep inclines.

https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1889868

11LMBiSTT · 02-23-2022, 05:39 PM

You can buy air cups but it won't work with the stock suspension/progressive springs.

RugbyBro · 02-23-2022, 05:54 PM

The only system I’m aware of that’s currently on the market are the aforementioned air cups. X.Shell has a thread on them, linked above and reposted below:

https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1889868

SYT_Shadow has also been looking for a front end lift system for his GTSs. He’s also a really great resource for the forum especially with regard to track related topics. Not sure why M Motorsport doesn’t sponsor the guy yet

But outside of lift systems, raising the car closer to stock height might be the best move. Clearance can get pretty tight in the front when lowered on HAS and/or with a lift system.

Humdizzle · 02-23-2022, 09:58 PM

won't know until you try.. it might clear with a steep angle of attack.

pic of driveway?

Mrbangis · 02-23-2022, 11:03 PM

subscribed! Has anyone done this local to me, LA/OC area?

McIntoshMotorSports · 02-24-2022, 09:36 AM

Follow rrtuuning on IG, he's working on a custom solution with Dynamic Auto Tune in NC

x.shell · 02-24-2022, 11:28 PM

There is no off the shelf solution like the KW HLS. That being said, the KW HLS was pretty lame anyways.

The only solutions I know of are StanceParts Air Cups or HybridAir — both solutions are almost identical in their execution except one uses a piston cup and the other uses an air bag (still a piston internally).

My Air Cup thread is linked in some of the replies. I don't recommend doing it unless you absolutely need it since there are a lot of hoops you have to jump through to get it to work.

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slcook54 Captain 1863 Rep 893 Posts Drives: 2012 MR M3 / 2018 SMB M3 CS Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: San Francisco iTrader: (0)	Front-Axle Lift Options? Hi All, I have an M3 CS inbound and have a steep driveway. I don't think it will currently clear and am wondering about the options for a front-axle lift system. I found this old video through a search and connected with Golan @ Autotalent, who I've worked with in the past, but he sadly informed me that KW discontinued their HLS system. I'm curious if anyone has figured out another solution? RugbyBro __________________ Instagram: slcook54
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G35POPPEDMYCHERRY Banned 4999 Rep 4,139 Posts Drives: F80 Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Philadelphia iTrader: (1)	on this note when i turn onto a steep incline, it always seems that one of my front tires is slipping? is this the LSD?
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Taylorsherk Second Lieutenant 183 Rep 203 Posts Drives: 2017 M3 ZCP Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: Ontario iTrader: (0)	There’s a few threads and vids on Air Cup systems that lift the front end to clear steep inclines. https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1889868
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11LMBiSTT Brigadier General 1552 Rep 3,786 Posts Drives: A to B. Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: One step ahead of you. iTrader: (105)	You can buy air cups but it won't work with the stock suspension/progressive springs.
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RugbyBro Brigadier General 7609 Rep 3,608 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: SF iTrader: (0)	The only system I’m aware of that’s currently on the market are the aforementioned air cups. X.Shell has a thread on them, linked above and reposted below: https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1889868 SYT_Shadow has also been looking for a front end lift system for his GTSs. He’s also a really great resource for the forum especially with regard to track related topics. Not sure why M Motorsport doesn’t sponsor the guy yet But outside of lift systems, raising the car closer to stock height might be the best move. Clearance can get pretty tight in the front when lowered on HAS and/or with a lift system. __________________ Current: F80 Prior: F82, F32 Last edited by RugbyBro; 02-23-2022 at 06:00 PM..
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x.shell ▆ ✚✚ ▆▆▆▆▆▆ 6586 Rep 5,305 Posts Drives: ▋ ▉▉ Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: ▆▆▆ ▆▆▆ ▆ iTrader: (3)	There is no off the shelf solution like the KW HLS. That being said, the KW HLS was pretty lame anyways. The only solutions I know of are StanceParts Air Cups or HybridAir — both solutions are almost identical in their execution except one uses a piston cup and the other uses an air bag (still a piston internally). My Air Cup thread is linked in some of the replies. I don't recommend doing it unless you absolutely need it since there are a lot of hoops you have to jump through to get it to work.
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