1200 mile service

opie · 10-23-2009, 02:25 PM

So according to the manual, a few miles driving is all it takes to reset and accurately measure the amount of oil in the engine.

The dealer tells me this is not true and that's why they had to put some additional miles on my car to "measure" the oil and reset the sensors.

Smells like B.S. to me - anyone had a similar experience on the E90/92/93?

MDCTFTW · 10-23-2009, 02:28 PM

how many miles? I made sure mine didn't and they were totally cool with it, but it was on my time if I take it and then it throws an error as soon as I leave. Basically I couldn't blame them if something goes wrong and they have to take the car back again.

Moxie · 10-23-2009, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by opie

So according to the manual, a few miles driving is all it takes to reset and accurately measure the amount of oil in the engine.

The dealer tells me this is not true and that's why they had to put some additional miles on my car to "measure" the oil and reset the sensors.

Smells like B.S. to me - anyone had a similar experience on the E90/92/93?

I had my 1200 mile service Tuesday. The dealer reset it & handed the car over to me as soon as it left the bay. It took maybe a half mile to measure the oil level.

M3twins · 10-23-2009, 03:07 PM

I specifically instruct the dealer that they do not have permission from me to take MY car off of their premises. I have had damage in the past to prior BMWs (e.g. rock chips in the paint and windshield) from the techs driving around for as much as 30+ miles. I make sure in advance that doesn't happen again!

GregW / Oregon · 10-23-2009, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by opie

So according to the manual, a few miles driving is all it takes to reset and accurately measure the amount of oil in the engine.

The dealer tells me this is not true and that's why they had to put some additional miles on my car to "measure" the oil and reset the sensors.

Smells like B.S. to me - anyone had a similar experience on the E90/92/93?

I don't know why the dealer would even have to reset it. They know the oil capacity. It should just reset as you drive it.

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AMOCHOSTO · 10-23-2009, 04:37 PM

I just got my car back from the 2000km service, it started throwing low oil messages immediately. Took it back to the dealer, they hadn't reset the system. Once they reset the system all was good.

foosh · 10-23-2009, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by opie

So according to the manual, a few miles driving is all it takes to reset and accurately measure the amount of oil in the engine.

The dealer tells me this is not true and that's why they had to put some additional miles on my car to "measure" the oil and reset the sensors.

Smells like B.S. to me - anyone had a similar experience on the E90/92/93?

I don't think your dealer is giving you BS. There are have been numerous similar examples discussed in this forum, since the M3 was introduced. After my 1200 mi. service it took the car 30 miles to reset, and I just kept driving until I got a reading. There seems to be considerable variability among cars. I called the service dept. about this, and they said they have seen some cars take a few miles and others 30 or more.

There is also considerable variability in how service depts. verify oil quantity after the change. Some drive the car until oil level registers, while others just add the known capacity and leave it at that.

I prefer that the dealer verifies the level on the oil quantity indicator, no matter how many miles it takes to get a reading.

epbrown · 10-23-2009, 05:06 PM

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I prefer that the dealer verifies the level on the oil quantity indicator, no matter how many miles it takes to get a reading.

Ditto - there have been too many tales of cars overfilled since BMW stopped using dipsticks in the cars.

JCtx · 10-24-2009, 12:41 AM

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I prefer that the dealer verifies the level on the oil quantity indicator, no matter how many miles it takes to get a reading.

I prefer to top it off myself over a few days rather than let a dealer drive the crap out of my car until it reads full. If they put 8.5 liters, engine is never going to be overfilled or underfilled, and you can take it from there. I topped mine off twice with 1/4 liter unitl it hit the full mark. And I'm always going to keep it full, just like if it had a regular dipstick. Once you learn how that POS works it's fairly accurate and consistent.

foosh · 10-24-2009, 10:04 AM

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I prefer to top it off myself over a few days rather than let a dealer drive the crap out of my car until it reads full. If they put 8.5 liters, engine is never going to be overfilled or underfilled . . .

Of course, but you have to make two assumptions regarding a particular service technician: 1) he/she properly and fully drained the old oil, meaning they also properly warmed it first, and 2) he/she properly measured 8.5L when refilling. That doesn't always happen, unfortunately.

The extra check is for quality assurance.

I don't understand why everyone assumes that there are a bunch of "Forrest Bueller" techs out there abusing M3s. Driving one isn't exactly a huge novelty for them.

jewishcubbiesfan · 10-24-2009, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by foosh

Of course, but you have to make two assumptions regarding a particular service technician: 1) he/she properly and fully drained the old oil, meaning they also properly warmed it first, and 2) he/she properly measured 8.5L when refilling. That doesn't always happen, unfortunately.

The extra check is for quality assurance.

I don't understand why everyone assumes that there are a bunch of "Forrest Bueller" techs out there abusing M3s. Driving one isn't exactly a huge novelty for them.

whose Forrest Bueller? I have heard of Ferris but not Forrest, a distant cousin maybe??

foosh · 10-24-2009, 11:21 AM

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whose Forrest Bueller? I have heard of Ferris but not Forrest, a distant cousin maybe??

Yes, Forrest was Ferris' brother. Didn't you see that one?

dolby · 10-24-2009, 12:12 PM

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Yes, Forrest was Ferris' brother. Didn't you see that one?

I think he meant Ferris Gump.

bobbyd1961 · 10-24-2009, 12:24 PM

the problem with the oil change is that the 7 liters register as overfilled on the oil gauge. it actually should adjust a day later. what the dealer had to do with mine was back off three quarters of a liter and when the guage finally adjusted later that day i added the balance. 20 extra miles with the dealer test driving is worth me going back and forth to dealer and putting on another 40 miles.

Race_Doc11 · 10-24-2009, 04:30 PM

no miles was put when I had the 1200 mile service a year ago..

NewM3driver · 10-24-2009, 09:51 PM

They should not drive your car for an oil change. I don't think the service techs beat on the cars, but the "kids" that wash and detail them surely do. Thats why my car goes in with specific instructions NOT to wash the car. Further, if it DOES need to be driven, it is by the service MANAGER only, no exceptions. They know me, and it is not a problem.

CantDrv55 · 10-25-2009, 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by foosh

Of course, but you have to make two assumptions regarding a particular service technician: 1) he/she properly and fully drained the old oil, meaning they also properly warmed it first, and 2) he/she properly measured 8.5L when refilling. That doesn't always happen, unfortunately.

The extra check is for quality assurance.

I don't understand why everyone assumes that there are a bunch of "Ferris Bueller" techs out there abusing M3s. Driving one isn't exactly a huge novelty for them.

As soon as I read that, the following image popped into my head.

Finnegan · 10-25-2009, 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by foosh

I don't understand why everyone assumes that there are a bunch of "Ferris Bueller" techs out there abusing M3s. Driving one isn't exactly a huge novelty for them.

I don't necessarily assume the techs are doing this, but as CantDrv55 commented, it's the first image that comes to mind!

Why?

I'll chalk it up to seeing that movie way too many times!

JCtx · 10-25-2009, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by foosh

Of course, but you have to make two assumptions regarding a particular service technician: 1) he/she properly and fully drained the old oil, meaning they also properly warmed it first, and 2) he/she properly measured 8.5L when refilling. That doesn't always happen, unfortunately.

The extra check is for quality assurance.

Well, if they don't do #1 and #2, I don't want them doing any 'quality assurance'

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foosh · 10-25-2009, 03:18 PM

I see, if they don't do #1 or #2, you don't want them to catch the mistake. Alrighty, then . . .

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bobbyd1961 Banned 43 Rep 2,406 Posts Drives: 2009 M3 sedan LeMans Blue Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: new jersey iTrader: (0)	the problem with the oil change is that the 7 liters register as overfilled on the oil gauge. it actually should adjust a day later. what the dealer had to do with mine was back off three quarters of a liter and when the guage finally adjusted later that day i added the balance. 20 extra miles with the dealer test driving is worth me going back and forth to dealer and putting on another 40 miles.
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