cant drive with door open?????

tadow213m · 07-31-2010, 03:49 PM

So I'm having my car washed today and I see the guy who is washing my car struggling to move the car. He keeps rolling back (my car is a DCT), so I go over to help and my idrive keeps saying must close door and puts the car back into neutral . Is this new??? I don't recall my last m3 to require the doors to be fully shut before going into gear.

NYCMCBM3 · 07-31-2010, 03:52 PM

^+1

i noticed it as well, while trying to inch up to the gas pump, it wudnt let me change to drive

EJ_92606 · 07-31-2010, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by tadow213m

So I'm having my car washed today and I see the guy who is washing my car struggling to move the car. He keeps rolling back (my car is a DCT), so I go over to help and my idrive keeps saying must close door and puts the car back into neutral . Is this new??? I don't recall my last m3 to require the doors to be fully shut before going into gear.

It's a DCT/SMG thing...dangerous to let you open the door while the car is in gear...otherwise you could leave the car in gear while running and someone else jumps in and presses the gas while getting in and bam the car takes off, hits something and BMW has a multi million dollar suit on their hands.

NYCMCBM3 · 07-31-2010, 03:54 PM

^o_O

EJ_92606 · 07-31-2010, 03:54 PM

btw, shame on you for taking the ///M to a car wash.

piloto · 07-31-2010, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by EJ_92606

It's a DCT/SMG thing...dangerous to let you open the door while the car is in gear...otherwise you could leave the car in gear while running and someone else jumps in and presses the gas while getting in and bam the car takes off, hits something and BMW has a multi million dollar suit on their hands.

How is that different than any other automatic transmission equipped car?

tadow213m · 07-31-2010, 04:01 PM

I have no place to wash it at home!!!!!!! Plus, its pulled to the side being hand washed

BigMoneyWasted · 07-31-2010, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by piloto

How is that different than any other automatic transmission equipped car?

It's not. Other automatics disengage drive with the door open as well (except E9x).

Dengel · 07-31-2010, 04:07 PM

my 6mt doesnt give a crap what i do while driving

Krozi · 07-31-2010, 04:09 PM

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mclarenmaniac · 07-31-2010, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by tadow213m

So I'm having my car washed today and I see the guy who is washing my car struggling to move the car. He keeps rolling back (my car is a DCT), so I go over to help and my idrive keeps saying must close door and puts the car back into neutral . Is this new??? I don't recall my last m3 to require the doors to be fully shut before going into gear.

similar issue discussed here:

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=380669

kaykay · 07-31-2010, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BigMoneyWasted

It's not. Other automatics disengage drive with the door open as well (except E9x).

Yeah, my 550i used to do that - it was terribly annoying and irritating when reversing into a space where you want to stick your head to get a better view, for example.

Of course, it makes sense (for the most part) is it's a safety issue and BMW is all about being safe. Can't blame them for that.

EJ_92606 · 07-31-2010, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by piloto

How is that different than any other automatic transmission equipped car?

haha, well open the door and try to get out of an auto car while it's in gear. DCT and SMG have no creep and they would sit there as if they were in neutral, but they're not.

Alex1911 · 08-01-2010, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Dengel

my 6mt doesnt give a crap what i do while driving

No kidding, that would be a big time hassle for me... A few places I go, I must pull in at a SHARP angle to keep my car from scraping. When I back out, I must back out at a sharp angle as well, I often open the driver's door to make sure I'm not going to hit the curb.

M3Fool · 08-01-2010, 01:57 AM

It is not a true "Automatic" Come to complete stop and let off the brake, the car will roll backwards if you are on a slope... even if it is in gear.

Fuzzz · 08-01-2010, 02:25 AM

So wait... I don't understand...

Does the car...

1. When already in 1st gear... if you open the door, the car refuses to move asking you to close the door before engaging the clutch... this would be annoying...

or

2. The car refuses to select 1st gear (from N) when the door is open... this makes sense...

MysticBlue · 08-01-2010, 03:00 AM

You can go forward or reverse with the door open IF your seat belt is buckled.
If seat belt is not buckled, when you select 1st gear or reverse, it will briefly indicate it is in gear but will then go back to N if the door is open.
Just buckle up and you're good to go.

SonnyJack · 08-01-2010, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Dengel

my 6mt doesnt give a crap what i do while driving

+1

Technic · 08-01-2010, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by tadow213m

So I'm having my car washed today and I see the guy who is washing my car struggling to move the car. He keeps rolling back (my car is a DCT), so I go over to help and my idrive keeps saying must close door and puts the car back into neutral . Is this new??? I don't recall my last m3 to require the doors to be fully shut before going into gear.

Wussy.

vtm3 · 08-01-2010, 10:34 AM

Is it I drive related? I have no idrive and have never had a problem.

sor · 08-01-2010, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by EJ_92606

haha, well open the door and try to get out of an auto car while it's in gear. DCT and SMG have no creep and they would sit there as if they were in neutral, but they're not.

Yep. You can't leave an automatic in-gear and unattended, it will roll away (unless the particular model has this feature). You also can't leave a manual in-gear and unattended, 6MT guys, so smug ;-) With DCT, you could potentially walk away, leaving the car in a dangerous state, if it didn't have this 'feature'.

tadow213m · 08-01-2010, 08:43 PM

It is definitely not the same as an auto car because you CAN have your door open with no belt on and put your car into drive and inch up or reverse for parking, but with the M DCT it just throws the car right back in neutral. Its not a big deal just strange to me because i wasn't aware of it until now. I just thought i was haven't another malfunction issue at first because my 2008 m3 gave me so many transmission problems that i ended up taking it back to the dealer but in this case its just a safety issue.

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Fuzzz Private 2 Rep 70 Posts Drives: 06 M5 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: San Francisco iTrader: (0)	Clarification So wait... I don't understand... Does the car... 1. When already in 1st gear... if you open the door, the car refuses to move asking you to close the door before engaging the clutch... this would be annoying... or 2. The car refuses to select 1st gear (from N) when the door is open... this makes sense...
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MysticBlue Lieutenant Colonel 369 Rep 1,887 Posts Drives: '20 M5C, '09 M3 DCT Coupe Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Eastern Oregon... They call 'em rigs here iTrader: (0)	You can go forward or reverse with the door open IF your seat belt is buckled. If seat belt is not buckled, when you select 1st gear or reverse, it will briefly indicate it is in gear but will then go back to N if the door is open. Just buckle up and you're good to go.
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tadow213m Private 18 Rep 93 Posts Drives: e92 M3 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: CA iTrader: (0)	It is definitely not the same as an auto car because you CAN have your door open with no belt on and put your car into drive and inch up or reverse for parking, but with the M DCT it just throws the car right back in neutral. Its not a big deal just strange to me because i wasn't aware of it until now. I just thought i was haven't another malfunction issue at first because my 2008 m3 gave me so many transmission problems that i ended up taking it back to the dealer but in this case its just a safety issue.
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