Primal Instincts

topfinadv · 08-08-2010, 12:34 PM

I love to drive as all men do, so question 2011 M3 vert or 2011 Porsche S vert/targa

Dice13 · 08-08-2010, 12:46 PM

That does not state what you are looking for. How bout a Toyota

1fastR1 · 08-08-2010, 12:53 PM

Porsche

topfinadv · 08-08-2010, 01:20 PM

I drove them both and I am kind of leaning towards the 911 but the M3 drove great also especially in M mode.

BMWMFAN27 · 08-08-2010, 01:24 PM

I drove them both. Completely different price tags. So if you can afford the 911 Carrera S vert go for it.

topfinadv · 08-08-2010, 02:14 PM

Price is not an option, although I think the targa is priced wrong. The only advantage I see to the targa is it gives me the classic look of the 911 with a little more open air than the coupe. The vert is nice but not too sure I like the look of the vert.

dimabimmer · 08-08-2010, 07:42 PM

M3 or nothing

mpm3 · 08-08-2010, 07:51 PM

i drove both and i went with the ///M power

kaykay · 08-08-2010, 08:10 PM

I took the M3 over a 997.2 "S" and my deal was for $21k off MSRP - still took the M, no question.

Porsche is a Porsche, but there are too many impracticalities that come with it, including the fact that every mid-life crisis old, balding man is driving one in Los Angeles.

dimabimmer · 08-08-2010, 08:19 PM

^^^^^^^

Kay Kay, fill your garage here with more photos of your SG M3... mine is going to be here in 10 days as well... can't wait...

topfinadv · 08-08-2010, 09:00 PM

boy lucky im not old and balding.....

Frozen Black Panther · 08-08-2010, 09:01 PM

porsche

kaykay · 08-08-2010, 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dimabimmer

^^^^^^^

Kay Kay, fill your garage here with more photos of your SG M3... mine is going to be here in 10 days as well... can't wait...

Here you go Dima...

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=401029

301Bimmer9 · 08-08-2010, 10:10 PM

I would go with the Porsche if money is not a problem and you don't need the additional room of the M3.

...You could get the M3 now though and save the Porsche for when you are old and gray

rominl · 08-08-2010, 11:39 PM

porsche 911s

JCtx · 08-09-2010, 12:16 AM

I don't honestly know why people say the 911/911S drives better than the M3. Unless it's for ego reasons, the M3 is a better driver. The only model it might qualify as a better driver is the GT3, but haven't driven that one. The model that definitely drives better than the M3 is the CS, but it's not a pretty car from the rear, and happens to cost less than the 911; that's the best driver's car for the money IMO, but has many drawbacks. The 911 seems to be the 'progression', but it's not a better driver IMO. It's going to be hard to top the M3 as a driver (especially in manual, and without electronic nannies), but there're a ton more cars with better 'name recognition' than the M3, and that's what I suspect the majority of affluent buyers are after.

dimabimmer · 08-09-2010, 04:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaykay

Here you go Dima...

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=401029

Nice!

karussell · 08-09-2010, 05:32 AM

c2s cab. faster. no speed limiter. lighter. proper brakes. no lag in the gas pedal. better steering response. doesn't twist around itself like m3 cab feels. way better fuel economy. better shifter feel. these are the things you are paying for. for same money though you can get a CPO 997.1 GT3 which would trump any C2S. open top is nice, but too much of a compromise for a vehicle designed with a closed roof in the first place.
YMMV.

cbnat · 08-09-2010, 07:50 AM

Get both.

PoorMan · 08-09-2010, 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbnat

Get both.

LOL Really... OP basically stated that price wasn't a factor so, yeah get em both.

drburton · 08-09-2010, 08:48 AM

Doesn't the 911 still use a soft top? If so, you have to consider that the M3 vert has a significant reduction in performance versus the standard M3 coupe. The hardtop adds like 300-400 pounds to the car. I don't believe this is the case with the 911. So if you are committed to a convertible and still want performance, go for the 911.

Brosef · 08-09-2010, 09:12 AM

I ordered an M3 a year ago. Cancelled the order after 2 months of waiting and got a barely used 997S (1,800 miles). Drove that for 9 months and then just got a new M3. They're such different cars. The 911 is certainly more rewarding to drive at the limit, and the steering feel is amazing. Primary reason I traded it in was space - you can only fit one adult in the rear seat, and even then it's uncomfortable for both of your passengers. The M3 is far more practical.

There are several things about the M that I appreciate a lot more now having owned the 911. It rides much smoother and allows the driver to be more relaxed in regular driving. The shorter wheelbase of the 911 and light front end (the latter on the rear drive 911s only) contribute to a very nervous driving feel, which, once you get a lot of experience behind the 911, is amazing. It doesn't inspire too much confidence in drivers inexperienced with 911s and is the reason most people would be faster in an M3 on a track. However, it is something you will grow to love about the 911.

Overall, I don't regret trading in the 911 for the M. Both amazing cars, but the versatility of the M impresses me a bit more. I will certainly get another 911 in the not-so-distant future (likely a GT3), but since I can only keep one car at the moment, I'm happy with the M.

Hope this helps. Choose wisely.

08-08-2010, 12:34 PM	#1
topfinadv New Member 3 Rep 17 Posts Drives: jerez black/silver/m3 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: new jersey iTrader: (0)	Primal Instincts I love to drive as all men do, so question 2011 M3 vert or 2011 Porsche S vert/targa
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08-08-2010, 12:46 PM	#2
Dice13 Captain 170 Rep 670 Posts Drives: 2011.5 AW E93 M3 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: New Jersey iTrader: (0)	That does not state what you are looking for. How bout a Toyota
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08-08-2010, 12:53 PM	#3
1fastR1 ///M 270 Rep 1,352 Posts Drives: ///M Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Virginia iTrader: (36)	Porsche
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08-08-2010, 01:20 PM	#4
topfinadv New Member 3 Rep 17 Posts Drives: jerez black/silver/m3 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: new jersey iTrader: (0)	I drove them both and I am kind of leaning towards the 911 but the M3 drove great also especially in M mode.
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08-08-2010, 01:24 PM	#5
BMWMFAN27 First Lieutenant 24 Rep 366 Posts Drives: 2011 E93 IB M3 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Scottsdale, AZ iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 BMW E93 M3 Con ... [0.00] 2008 BMW 550I [9.00]	I drove them both. Completely different price tags. So if you can afford the 911 Carrera S vert go for it.
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08-08-2010, 02:14 PM	#6
topfinadv New Member 3 Rep 17 Posts Drives: jerez black/silver/m3 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: new jersey iTrader: (0)	Price is not an option, although I think the targa is priced wrong. The only advantage I see to the targa is it gives me the classic look of the 911 with a little more open air than the coupe. The vert is nice but not too sure I like the look of the vert.
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08-08-2010, 07:42 PM	#7
dimabimmer Lieutenant Colonel 148 Rep 1,885 Posts Drives: '11 E92 M3 ZCP 6MT Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Brooklyn to SoHo NYC iTrader: (0)	M3 or nothing __________________ '11 E92 M3 ZCP SG 6MT Tech Sound USB Heat Cloth Aluminium Sunshade http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=422151
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08-08-2010, 07:51 PM	#8
mpm3 Captain 70 Rep 819 Posts Drives: 2007 M coupe Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: New Jersey iTrader: (7) Garage List 2007 BMW M coupe [10.00] 2011 BMW M3 [0.00]	i drove both and i went with the ///M power
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08-08-2010, 08:10 PM	#9
kaykay Lieutenant Colonel 90 Rep 1,769 Posts Drives: 2011 E92 M3 ZCP Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: SoCal iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 E93 328i Conve ... [9.50] 2011 E92 M3 ZCP [8.66] 2008 550i Sport [10.00]	I took the M3 over a 997.2 "S" and my deal was for $21k off MSRP - still took the M, no question. Porsche is a Porsche, but there are too many impracticalities that come with it, including the fact that every mid-life crisis old, balding man is driving one in Los Angeles. __________________ '12 CLS550 Palladium Silver - loaded '11 E92 M3 ZCP - SG/B-EXT/CF, M-DCT, loaded '11 E93 328i, BSM over Saddle Brown, sport, loaded '08 550i M-Sport, Carbon Black (Gone but not forgotten), '06 W211 E55 AMG (Gone, miss this animal),'01 E39 540i Sport
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08-08-2010, 08:19 PM	#10
dimabimmer Lieutenant Colonel 148 Rep 1,885 Posts Drives: '11 E92 M3 ZCP 6MT Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Brooklyn to SoHo NYC iTrader: (0)	^^^^^^^ Kay Kay, fill your garage here with more photos of your SG M3... mine is going to be here in 10 days as well... can't wait... __________________ '11 E92 M3 ZCP SG 6MT Tech Sound USB Heat Cloth Aluminium Sunshade http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=422151
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08-08-2010, 09:00 PM	#11
topfinadv New Member 3 Rep 17 Posts Drives: jerez black/silver/m3 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: new jersey iTrader: (0)	boy lucky im not old and balding.....
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08-08-2010, 09:01 PM	#12
Frozen Black Panther Captain 67 Rep 927 Posts Drives: 2013 550 DINAN STAGE 2 Join Date: May 2010 Location: NYC/CHICAGO iTrader: (0)	porsche
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08-08-2010, 10:10 PM	#14
301Bimmer9 It's Playtime 5 Rep 188 Posts Drives: 2011 E92 M3 Join Date: May 2010 Location: MOCO, MD iTrader: (0)	I would go with the Porsche if money is not a problem and you don't need the additional room of the M3. ...You could get the M3 now though and save the Porsche for when you are old and gray __________________ 2011 E92 M3 AW/Fox Red ZCP
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08-08-2010, 11:39 PM	#15
rominl Second Lieutenant 17 Rep 278 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Orange County, CA iTrader: (0)	porsche 911s __________________
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08-09-2010, 12:16 AM	#16
JCtx Major General 258 Rep 5,012 Posts Drives: No BMW yet Join Date: May 2008 Location: El Paso TX iTrader: (0)	I don't honestly know why people say the 911/911S drives better than the M3. Unless it's for ego reasons, the M3 is a better driver. The only model it might qualify as a better driver is the GT3, but haven't driven that one. The model that definitely drives better than the M3 is the CS, but it's not a pretty car from the rear, and happens to cost less than the 911; that's the best driver's car for the money IMO, but has many drawbacks. The 911 seems to be the 'progression', but it's not a better driver IMO. It's going to be hard to top the M3 as a driver (especially in manual, and without electronic nannies), but there're a ton more cars with better 'name recognition' than the M3, and that's what I suspect the majority of affluent buyers are after.
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08-09-2010, 05:32 AM	#18
karussell Lieutenant Colonel 356 Rep 1,749 Posts Drives: 4 wheels Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: NorCal iTrader: (1)	c2s cab. faster. no speed limiter. lighter. proper brakes. no lag in the gas pedal. better steering response. doesn't twist around itself like m3 cab feels. way better fuel economy. better shifter feel. these are the things you are paying for. for same money though you can get a CPO 997.1 GT3 which would trump any C2S. open top is nice, but too much of a compromise for a vehicle designed with a closed roof in the first place. YMMV. __________________ "It gave you amazing satisfaction, but anyone who says he loved it is either a liar or he wasn't going fast enough." - Jackie Stewart on racing at the Nurburgring
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08-09-2010, 07:50 AM	#19
cbnat Looking for the Apex 0 Rep 29 Posts Drives: 2011 911 C4S Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Atlanta iTrader: (0)	Get both. __________________ 2011 Porsche C4S 2010 E93 M3 2009 Cadillac Escalade 1967 Camaro 1978 Toyota Landcruiser FJ40
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08-09-2010, 08:48 AM	#21
drburton Lieutenant 116 Rep 468 Posts Drives: e92 M3 Alpine Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Minneapolis iTrader: (3)	Doesn't the 911 still use a soft top? If so, you have to consider that the M3 vert has a significant reduction in performance versus the standard M3 coupe. The hardtop adds like 300-400 pounds to the car. I don't believe this is the case with the 911. So if you are committed to a convertible and still want performance, go for the 911.
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08-09-2010, 09:12 AM	#22
Brosef Brigadier General 880 Rep 3,452 Posts Drives: F90 M5 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Chicago iTrader: (4)	I ordered an M3 a year ago. Cancelled the order after 2 months of waiting and got a barely used 997S (1,800 miles). Drove that for 9 months and then just got a new M3. They're such different cars. The 911 is certainly more rewarding to drive at the limit, and the steering feel is amazing. Primary reason I traded it in was space - you can only fit one adult in the rear seat, and even then it's uncomfortable for both of your passengers. The M3 is far more practical. There are several things about the M that I appreciate a lot more now having owned the 911. It rides much smoother and allows the driver to be more relaxed in regular driving. The shorter wheelbase of the 911 and light front end (the latter on the rear drive 911s only) contribute to a very nervous driving feel, which, once you get a lot of experience behind the 911, is amazing. It doesn't inspire too much confidence in drivers inexperienced with 911s and is the reason most people would be faster in an M3 on a track. However, it is something you will grow to love about the 911. Overall, I don't regret trading in the 911 for the M. Both amazing cars, but the versatility of the M impresses me a bit more. I will certainly get another 911 in the not-so-distant future (likely a GT3), but since I can only keep one car at the moment, I'm happy with the M. Hope this helps. Choose wisely.
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