Shredded Belt @ 60 miles on 2011 m3

gdavie · 10-02-2010, 10:29 PM

I took delivery of my new 2011 M3 yesterday. Today while driving, it shredded one of the belts and lost power steering. The car had to be trucked to the BMW dealership.

Pretty disappointed by the event. Doesn't it seem odd that a car would shred a belt with only 60 miles on it? Maybe one of pulleys locked up.

foosh · 10-02-2010, 10:56 PM

One of the basic tenets of manufacturing and engineering is that component failure is most likely when a part is either brand new (manufacturing defect) or old (worn out). In the middle, things are generally reliable.

geneatals · 10-02-2010, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by foosh

One of the basic tenets of manufacturing and engineering is that component failure is most likely when a part is either brand new (manufacturing defect) or old (worn out). In the middle, things are generally reliable.

so are you saying we should just buy used or cpo'd BMW's?

BTT: sorry to hear OP, hope things get fixed quickly and stays fixed

aus · 10-03-2010, 12:49 AM

Dude, that's nothing. My belt or idler pulley shredded as I was just turning into a big NASCAR turn after blasting down the main straight!!!

It was pretty hairy until the turn straightened out. I was able to drive home but it's pretty difficult to turn without powersteering.

JCtx · 10-03-2010, 01:05 AM

Man, the global recession must be affecting morale big time. We're seeing more freaking problems on '11 cars than on early '08s; just doesn't make any sense. Hope that's your only issue. Good luck.

NYCMCBM3 · 10-03-2010, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by elp_jc

Man, the global recession must be affecting morale big time. We're seeing more freaking problems on '11 cars than on early '08s; just doesn't make any sense. Hope that's your only issue. Good luck.

100% ture

richardbb85 · 10-03-2010, 02:17 AM

dam that's crazy

Finnegan · 10-03-2010, 02:24 AM

Wow, what a total drag.

junk · 10-03-2010, 05:04 AM

ouch..sorry to hear

kpneverdies · 10-03-2010, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by elp_jc

Man, the global recession must be affecting morale big time. We're seeing more freaking problems on '11 cars than on early '08s; just doesn't make any sense. Hope that's your only issue. Good luck.

wut's the recession gotta do with defects of M3's? just curious...

SUB-ZERO · 10-03-2010, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by kpneverdies

wut's the recession gotta do with defects of M3's? just curious...

Well, there's obviously cost cutting somewhere. In general, It could be several factors such as :

1. Less training for workers building the car
2. Less workers that are now more strained
3. Reduced quality control personnel and/or processes
4. Inferior components

I agree with the OP in that it seems the 2011s are having some weird issues
that I never heard of the 2010 and below having. One would think that once a manufacturer has been building the same car for four years now, some of these issues should be non existent.

I could be wrong but you must amit, these issues do seem strange.

SZ

kmarei · 10-03-2010, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by foosh

One of the basic tenets of manufacturing and engineering is that component failure is most likely when a part is either brand new (manufacturing defect) or old (worn out). In the middle, things are generally reliable.

the bathtub rule

Aim Straight · 10-03-2010, 01:04 PM

Extended warranties ... it is what it is = Gamble

MTROIS · 10-03-2010, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by elp_jc

Man, the global recession must be affecting morale big time. We're seeing more freaking problems on '11 cars than on early '08s; just doesn't make any sense. Hope that's your only issue. Good luck.

+1... my '08 has been flawless.
+1 on Extended Warranty is not a good buy... but the Extended Maintenance I think is good if you think you will hit the mileage limit.

Sorry to read your issue OP but it will be fixed ASAP.

kpneverdies · 10-03-2010, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SUB-ZERO

Well, there's obviously cost cutting somewhere. In general, It could be several factors such as :

1. Less training for workers building the car
2. Less workers that are now more strained
3. Reduced quality control personnel and/or processes
4. Inferior components

I agree with the OP in that it seems the 2011s are having some weird issues
that I never heard of the 2010 and below having. One would think that once a manufacturer has been building the same car for four years now, some of these issues should be non existent.

I could be wrong but you must amit, these issues do seem strange.

SZ

thx for ur reply SZ, but i thought global recession started around 08 (sorry if this is wrong). if what u r saying is true, does that mean ALL the car, electronic, etc companies are making poor items? then shouldn't 08, 09, and 10 models should have problems too? as well as all other car brands?

thanks.

JCtx · 10-03-2010, 08:34 PM

Hey, didn't want to start a 'recession war' folks

. I just made a comment based on my personal observations on other fields: workers are pissed off for losing hours and/or pay (or having to do more work for nothing), companies are using cheaper components/parts to make ends meet, etc. Companies just want to survive for now, and some affected workers seem to be channeling their anger on their work. If somebody has a better explanation why more problems now than early on, shoot

.

Hope everybody had a great weekend. After going for a ride on my beast, I did

.

SUB-ZERO · 10-03-2010, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by kpneverdies

thx for ur reply SZ, but i thought global recession started around 08 (sorry if this is wrong). if what u r saying is true, does that mean ALL the car, electronic, etc companies are making poor items? then shouldn't 08, 09, and 10 models should have problems too? as well as all other car brands?

thanks.

It really is impossible to determine if there is any real connection between defects and the recession; my statement was just an educated guess on the matter. Maybe BMW workers have been doing the same thing the workers at the Chrysler plant were doing a few weeks ago.....lol!

-SZ

kpneverdies · 10-03-2010, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SUB-ZERO

It really is impossible to determine if there is any real connection between defects and the recession; my statement was just an educated guess on the matter. Maybe BMW workers have been doing the same thing the workers at the Chrysler plant were doing a few weeks ago.....lol!

-SZ

i see. i was just curious, didn't mean to say u were wrong or something.
thanks for your reply man.

kpneverdies · 10-03-2010, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by elp_jc

Hey, didn't want to start a 'recession war' folks

. I just made a comment based on my personal observations on other fields: workers are pissed off for losing hours and/or pay (or having to do more work for nothing), companies are using cheaper components/parts to make ends meet, etc. Companies just want to survive for now, and some affected workers seem to be channeling their anger on their work. If somebody has a better explanation why more problems now than early on, shoot

.

Hope everybody had a great weekend. After going for a ride on my beast, I did

.

haha i know. i was just wondering about it. but i do see that where you came up with it. great thoughts buddy.

dexx · 10-04-2010, 12:01 PM

So what, get it fixed under warranty.. IMHO the break-in period rev/speed limits are more to make sure early failures happen in a way that doesn't kill you than for the health of the engine/car.

did you get it up to 8400 RPMS? :-/ LOL.

dexx · 10-04-2010, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Aim Straight

Extended warranties ... it is what it is = Gamble

No, I think BMW makes money from it with projections on failure rates.

However for an individual if a single repair could cover the cost of the warranty (i.e. threw a connecting rod), it may be very worth it. *shrug*.

Aim Straight · 10-04-2010, 12:13 PM

dexx: That's what I meant ... it's a gamble!

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gdavie New Member 3 Rep 14 Posts Drives: 2015 991 GT3, 2015 Macan Turbo Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: alabama iTrader: (0)	Shredded Belt @ 60 miles on 2011 m3 I took delivery of my new 2011 M3 yesterday. Today while driving, it shredded one of the belts and lost power steering. The car had to be trucked to the BMW dealership. Pretty disappointed by the event. Doesn't it seem odd that a car would shred a belt with only 60 miles on it? Maybe one of pulleys locked up.
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foosh Major 27 Rep 1,314 Posts Drives: 2008 M3 E93 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Annapolis, MD iTrader: (0)	One of the basic tenets of manufacturing and engineering is that component failure is most likely when a part is either brand new (manufacturing defect) or old (worn out). In the middle, things are generally reliable. __________________
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aus Major General 894 Rep 9,034 Posts Drives: Odysse Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Seal Beach, CA iTrader: (10)	Dude, that's nothing. My belt or idler pulley shredded as I was just turning into a big NASCAR turn after blasting down the main straight!!! It was pretty hairy until the turn straightened out. I was able to drive home but it's pretty difficult to turn without powersteering. __________________ Let me get this straight... You are swapping out parts designed by some of the top engineers in the world because some guys sponsored by a company told you it's "better??" But when you ask the same guy about tracking, "oh no, I have a kid now" or "I just detailed my car." or "i just got new tires."
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JCtx Major General 258 Rep 5,012 Posts Drives: No BMW yet Join Date: May 2008 Location: El Paso TX iTrader: (0)	Hey, didn't want to start a 'recession war' folks . I just made a comment based on my personal observations on other fields: workers are pissed off for losing hours and/or pay (or having to do more work for nothing), companies are using cheaper components/parts to make ends meet, etc. Companies just want to survive for now, and some affected workers seem to be channeling their anger on their work. If somebody has a better explanation why more problems now than early on, shoot . Hope everybody had a great weekend. After going for a ride on my beast, I did . Last edited by JCtx; 10-03-2010 at 08:46 PM..
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