Question about drivers who chose DCT

Miami M3 · 11-24-2010, 02:40 PM

*******DON'T WORRY, THIS IS NOT ANOTHER THREAD ASKING FOR ADVICE ON CHOOSING DCT OR 6MT!!!*******

I've read a lot of the threads with people giving their opinion on both, and have already made up my mind on which I prefer, but despite all the in depth comparisons and flame wars there's one question that I'm curious to know the answer to:

Of those who chose DCT, how many never owned a manual transmission car before?

Crazy Bimmer · 11-24-2010, 02:45 PM

Can we answer if we fit the other category as well?

Always had manuals but went with DCT for the M3. Still loving it but i do get the occasional itch to row through gears.

zuschnell · 11-24-2010, 02:48 PM

same here. had manuals before the m3. miss it sometimes, but i really do love the dct! especially when stuck with city driving and traffic

SchnellM3 · 11-24-2010, 02:56 PM

Pretty much all my other fun cars have been MTs, as the other said I there are some days when I wish I had the 6. Overall I'm happy with my decision and would do it again

elh0102 · 11-24-2010, 03:04 PM

My guess, you will find very few never-owned-a-manual in this response. DCT is a relatively new innovation in affordable street cars. The M3 is not the first performance car for many buyers, since it is beyond an entry-level cost for most folks. And since most peformance cars have been manuals, that will be the general experience. This is my first DCT following many MT cars. It ain't perfect, but it is a very good transmission. My last performance car was a 996 GT3. The porsche clutch and shifter are so good, I would stay with a manual in that car. But compared to the BMW alternative, I find DCT the better option. And yes, I miss the heel/toe shifting experience occasionally.

LateBraking · 11-24-2010, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Miami M3

*******DON'T WORRY, THIS IS NOT ANOTHER THREAD ASKING FOR ADVICE ON CHOOSING DCT OR 6MT!!!*******

I've read a lot of the threads with people giving their opinion on both, and have already made up my mind on which I prefer, but despite all the in depth comparisons and flame wars there's one question that I'm curious to know the answer to:

Of those who chose DCT, how many never owned a manual transmission car before?

This would be best reflected in a poll with 2 options Miami: I have owned a 6MT before but I chose DCT, and I have never owned a 6MT before and I chose DCT.

GT3 Tim · 11-24-2010, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by elh0102

My guess, you will find very few never-owned-a-manual in this response. DCT is a relatively new innovation in affordable street cars. The M3 is not the first performance car for many buyers, since it is beyond an entry-level cost for most folks. And since most peformance cars have been manuals, that will be the general experience. This is my first DCT following many MT cars. It ain't perfect, but it is a very good transmission. My last performance car was a 996 GT3. The porsche clutch and shifter are so good, I would stay with a manual in that car. But compared to the BMW alternative, I find DCT the better option. And yes, I miss the heel/toe shifting experience occasionally.

Ditto...to everything. lol Even the 996 GT3. Strange....

Polarcharger · 11-24-2010, 03:26 PM

I've owned seven manuals, and never an auto.

Glad I chose DCT for this car, thought if it was my only car, I'd choose manual.

skierman64 · 11-24-2010, 03:31 PM

Driven manuals my whole driving lifetime and chose DCT now, I'd make the same decision if I had to do it again.

BKMK5 · 11-24-2010, 03:41 PM

I've never owned a MT before. However this M3 isn't my first dual clutch tranny either. Had an 07 GTI hence the tag Black MK5

OC3 · 11-24-2010, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by zuschnell

same here. had manuals before the m3. miss it sometimes, but i really do love the dct! especially when stuck with city driving and traffic

Same here too. Except, I stay in S mode even in traffic.

ShadeD1 · 11-24-2010, 04:55 PM

Always had manuals until I bought a 2008 Audi TT 3.2 Quattro with their version of a dual clutch transmission (DSG). I used the car for 3 years as a track car and was totally sold on the transmission. One of the key features of the M3 as a replacement track car was the DCT and I have not been disappointed after a dozen track days. I find that even the instructors who give me a hard time about driving a manual like it when they drive it.

Sean Alexander · 11-24-2010, 05:43 PM

I've owned in excess of 20 cars, 18 where three-pedal manuals, the other two where V-8 powered pick-up trucks. My DCT E90 M3 is my first ever two-pedal "car" and I do have mixed feelings about it. However, I love how brutally efficient the M-DCT is when it comes to straight line acceleration.

G.R · 11-24-2010, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by zuschnell

same here. had manuals before the m3. miss it sometimes, but i really do love the dct! especially when stuck with city driving and traffic

This.

hbcpa · 11-24-2010, 05:58 PM

First car at age 16 was an auto. I had it for 9 months. Every car since (23 years) have only been manuals. I'm going DCT for the flawless shifting faster than a human could ever accomplish. I can still shift the gears in S mode or drop it in D when I get stuck in traffic.

MonteCarloM3 · 11-24-2010, 05:59 PM

i have not, never owned a manual before

skierman64 · 11-24-2010, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ShadeD1

I find that even the instructors who give me a hard time about driving a manual like it when they drive it.

Really, why are instructors giving you a hard time about a DCT?

slimflem · 11-24-2010, 06:29 PM

I've had a mix of both; manuals and standard autos. At this point in my life, I'm over rowing gears and could not be happier with the DCT. What a performer it is. I'm done with manuals as long as there are DCT and similar transmissions. Do I miss it sometimes, sure, but I have zero regrets over my DCT. I rarely put it in D.

OC3 · 11-24-2010, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean Alexander

... However, I love how brutally efficient the M-DCT is when it comes to straight line acceleration.

Yep. Plus, the car as a whole is one of the best production cars to toss around & slide.

emthreeboy · 11-25-2010, 12:15 AM

I've only driven MT cars prior my M-DCT M3. And this tranny is superior in most ways I think, with this i can rev match every gear from 7th till 1st without even trying hard!

sor · 11-25-2010, 12:20 AM

Drove 6mt for 12 years, also drove autos, of course. I think the DCT is more manual than it's given credit for. For example, people getting confused that they cant put it in park when stopped (put it in neutral and pull the e-brake, this isnt an auto). It really is what youd think of as being a manual tranny that just happens to engage/disengage the clutch for you.

emthreeboy · 11-25-2010, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by sor

Drove 6mt for 12 years, also drove autos, of course. I think the DCT is more manual than it's given credit for. For example, people getting confused that they cant put it in park when stopped (put it in neutral and pull the e-brake, this isnt an auto). It really is what youd think of as being a manual tranny that just happens to engage/disengage the clutch for you.

+1.

11-24-2010, 02:40 PM	#1
Miami M3 First Lieutenant 28 Rep 323 Posts Drives: 2011.5 E92 M3 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Miami iTrader: (0)	Question about drivers who chose DCT *****DON'T WORRY, THIS IS NOT ANOTHER THREAD ASKING FOR ADVICE ON CHOOSING DCT OR 6MT!!!***** I've read a lot of the threads with people giving their opinion on both, and have already made up my mind on which I prefer, but despite all the in depth comparisons and flame wars there's one question that I'm curious to know the answer to: Of those who chose DCT, how many never owned a manual transmission car before?
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Crazy Bimmer The Jesal 391 Rep 5,859 Posts Drives: E90 M3 Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Chicago IL iTrader: (20) Garage List 2009 BMW M3 [0.00]	Can we answer if we fit the other category as well? Always had manuals but went with DCT for the M3. Still loving it but i do get the occasional itch to row through gears. __________________ 2009 E90 M3 - SOLD
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zuschnell Captain 556 Rep 629 Posts Drives: '19 m5, '18 991.2 gt3, Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: chicago iTrader: (0)	same here. had manuals before the m3. miss it sometimes, but i really do love the dct! especially when stuck with city driving and traffic __________________ Gone but not forgotten: '10 X5M, '14 550ix, '17 M3 zcp, '11 aw e90 M3 zcp, ?11 sg e90 M3, '17 X5M, 19 F90 M5 Current: ?13 e92 m3 ESS 585, 22 f95 x5m Comp, Track - '18 manual 991.2 GT3, Wife's family truckster - '20 Volvo XC90 T8
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SchnellM3 Digger 209 Rep 2,619 Posts Drives: 03 E46 M3 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Pa iTrader: (5) Garage List 2003 BMW E46 M3 Tra ... [8.00] 2009 BMW E92 M3 [8.30] 2009 Yamaha R1 (FOR ... [9.50]	Pretty much all my other fun cars have been MTs, as the other said I there are some days when I wish I had the 6. Overall I'm happy with my decision and would do it again __________________ 2009 E92 M3 /// Melbourne Red /// Fox Red /// M DKG Full Innotech Exhaust - DINAN Intake - IND Engine Bay Appearance - IND Hand Stitched Boot Covers - and much more....
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elh0102 Captain 15 Rep 751 Posts Drives: 2009 335i coupe Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	My guess, you will find very few never-owned-a-manual in this response. DCT is a relatively new innovation in affordable street cars. The M3 is not the first performance car for many buyers, since it is beyond an entry-level cost for most folks. And since most peformance cars have been manuals, that will be the general experience. This is my first DCT following many MT cars. It ain't perfect, but it is a very good transmission. My last performance car was a 996 GT3. The porsche clutch and shifter are so good, I would stay with a manual in that car. But compared to the BMW alternative, I find DCT the better option. And yes, I miss the heel/toe shifting experience occasionally.
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Polarcharger Private 3 Rep 71 Posts Drives: E36, E46, & E90 M3 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Boston iTrader: (0)	I've owned seven manuals, and never an auto. Glad I chose DCT for this car, thought if it was my only car, I'd choose manual. __________________ Current: E36 M3 ('98), E46 M3 ('05 ZCP), E90 M3 ('11 ZCP), GT3 RS ('07)
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skierman64 Brigadier General 127 Rep 3,071 Posts Drives: E92M3-E46M3-E46Wagon-E89Z4-E36 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Greater St Louis Metro area iTrader: (1) Garage List 1994 325is Race Car [0.00] 2011 BMW Z4 [0.00] 1998 M3 Coupe [0.00] 2008 M3 Coupe [0.00]	Driven manuals my whole driving lifetime and chose DCT now, I'd make the same decision if I had to do it again. __________________ Invest Wisely...The best mod for your money?? BMWCCA high performance driver's school. The mod that lasts a lifetime and improves the performance of any car you drive[/LEFT]
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BKMK5 First Lieutenant 29 Rep 344 Posts Drives: 2019 MB C43 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: NY iTrader: (0)	I've never owned a MT before. However this M3 isn't my first dual clutch tranny either. Had an 07 GTI hence the tag Black MK5
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ShadeD1 First Lieutenant 38 Rep 330 Posts Drives: 2011 X5 xDrive 35i Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Houston, TX iTrader: (0)	Always had manuals until I bought a 2008 Audi TT 3.2 Quattro with their version of a dual clutch transmission (DSG). I used the car for 3 years as a track car and was totally sold on the transmission. One of the key features of the M3 as a replacement track car was the DCT and I have not been disappointed after a dozen track days. I find that even the instructors who give me a hard time about driving a manual like it when they drive it.
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Sean Alexander Long-term Enthusiast 4 Rep 95 Posts Drives: '14 Porsche Cayman S Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Irvine, CA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2014 Porsche Cayman S [0.00] 2011 Mercedes CLS 550 [0.00]	I've owned in excess of 20 cars, 18 where three-pedal manuals, the other two where V-8 powered pick-up trucks. My DCT E90 M3 is my first ever two-pedal "car" and I do have mixed feelings about it. However, I love how brutally efficient the M-DCT is when it comes to straight line acceleration.
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hbcpa Second Lieutenant 6 Rep 211 Posts Drives: 2011.5 MR E90 M3 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Maryland iTrader: (0)	First car at age 16 was an auto. I had it for 9 months. Every car since (23 years) have only been manuals. I'm going DCT for the flawless shifting faster than a human could ever accomplish. I can still shift the gears in S mode or drop it in D when I get stuck in traffic. __________________
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MonteCarloM3 Banned 52 Rep 576 Posts Drives: a shitty M3 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Uranus iTrader: (0)	i have not, never owned a manual before
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slimflem get driving! 10 Rep 260 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: CA iTrader: (0)	I've had a mix of both; manuals and standard autos. At this point in my life, I'm over rowing gears and could not be happier with the DCT. What a performer it is. I'm done with manuals as long as there are DCT and similar transmissions. Do I miss it sometimes, sure, but I have zero regrets over my DCT. I rarely put it in D.
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emthreeboy Captain 37 Rep 917 Posts Drives: E92 M3 & E46 M3 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: socal iTrader: (2)	I've only driven MT cars prior my M-DCT M3. And this tranny is superior in most ways I think, with this i can rev match every gear from 7th till 1st without even trying hard! __________________ -09 e92 SPACE GRAY/// m3 w/ m-dct! -06 E46 JET BLACK/// m3 6MT! Last edited by emthreeboy; 11-25-2010 at 12:21 AM..
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sor Brigadier General 3115 Rep 3,076 Posts Drives: 2023 iX M60 Oxide Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: UT iTrader: (0) Garage List 2023 BMW iX M60 [0.00]	Drove 6mt for 12 years, also drove autos, of course. I think the DCT is more manual than it's given credit for. For example, people getting confused that they cant put it in park when stopped (put it in neutral and pull the e-brake, this isnt an auto). It really is what youd think of as being a manual tranny that just happens to engage/disengage the clutch for you.
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