"E9xs are not linear and High revving!"

thai357sig · 11-30-2010, 04:52 PM

Got htis line from a guy that works at my local tire place. Apparently he has an e46 which he has modified completely and an e36 that he races. He and another guy were telling about about their new in stock Toyos Proxes 1 that they were raving about. He told me that he prefers his e46 to the e9X because he like the NA engines, linear powerband, and the high revving engine. I told him the E90x has all of that in spades. Eventually he says he knows but he still prefers the e46 due to the few E9xs which he has driven but left him relatively unimpressed. I didn't want to start anything or have them eFF'd up my wheels so I just nodded and went on my way.

These fools still manage to scratch my wheels, especially in the area around where the lug nuts go in. The nuts are also scratched up pretty good with all the shiny metal score morks on the dark finish. I am so used to all the fools not giving a damn about other peoples stuff I probably won't even complain about it. VOB BMW are such Fukk-ups, they pretty much got me used to it.

PKL · 11-30-2010, 04:55 PM

sucks.

zhangzeyuandss · 11-30-2010, 05:12 PM

yeah .. that sucks

sameh · 11-30-2010, 05:21 PM

WTF!!!! you can say anything you want about E9x M3 but when it gets to high revving, it's just a fact not subject to miss-interpretations!! Listen man, I got the middle finger just stopping in a red light, the reason was, I was driving an M3. Get used to this *hit.

pmeloche · 11-30-2010, 06:43 PM

What do they consider to be high-revving if 8300 rpm is not?

I can't comment on the linearity of the powerband but it seems to me that the M3 has a high-revving engine.

_Jono_ · 11-30-2010, 07:00 PM

Your kidding me? wow

prichards516 · 11-30-2010, 07:42 PM

i bet if he had the opportunity to jump into the e9x he would ditch the e46 in heartbeat.

///V\3Dude · 11-30-2010, 07:42 PM

Tell them a honda S2000 isn't high revving. It's all in their mind. I had a S2k, that thing was high revving but it didn't feel like the M3. My m3 pulled through out the powerband. My S2k felt like the revs on the meter were just for show. <<<hope that made sense, im testing out this app on the iphone

thai357sig · 11-30-2010, 10:08 PM

Yeah, it seems it was sort of of sour grapes. I kind of got the feeling he was trying to explain and justify why he was happy with his e46 and the reasons why he did not want to jump to the e9X. I think it was more economics than anything else. Sometimes it is better to leave people delusional. Peace.

edcvin · 11-30-2010, 10:31 PM

^^I'd say your dead on with that.

-Vin

swamp2 · 12-01-2010, 09:44 PM

The broad and flat torque curve that the E9X M3 has it one of its most amazing technical accomplishments. This translates directly to a completely linear power curve. That person does not know their terminology nor the match between the feel of the car/engine and the term "linear".

Park2670 · 12-02-2010, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by swamp2

The broad and flat torque curve that the E9X M3 has it one of its most amazing technical accomplishments. This translates directly to a completely linear power curve. That person does not know their terminology nor the match between the feel of the car/engine and the term "linear".

Agreed.

FStop7 · 12-02-2010, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by PKL

sucks.

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Originally Posted by zhangzeyuandss

yeah .. that sucks

sucks

double_j · 12-02-2010, 12:06 PM

I will say that although the E9X is clearly faster, the E46 was a bit more of a rush to drive. High revving or not, the E9X is much more restrained and relaxed at all speeds. This is a good and a bad thing.

330CIZHP · 12-02-2010, 12:12 PM

E46 S54 engine is way too peaky. It delivers most of its torque above 5000 rpm.

The E9X S65 delivers a far flatter torque curve starting at 4000 rpm and goes uptill 8400 rpm.

Interestingly, he should know E9X revs 500 rpm higher than the S54 (7900 rpm vs 8400 rpm).

V1.47fan · 12-02-2010, 04:35 PM

Please,Can you post some pics?

11-30-2010, 04:52 PM	#1
thai357sig Lieutenant 30 Rep 409 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Amerika iTrader: (0)	"E9xs are not linear and High revving!" Got htis line from a guy that works at my local tire place. Apparently he has an e46 which he has modified completely and an e36 that he races. He and another guy were telling about about their new in stock Toyos Proxes 1 that they were raving about. He told me that he prefers his e46 to the e9X because he like the NA engines, linear powerband, and the high revving engine. I told him the E90x has all of that in spades. Eventually he says he knows but he still prefers the e46 due to the few E9xs which he has driven but left him relatively unimpressed. I didn't want to start anything or have them eFF'd up my wheels so I just nodded and went on my way. These fools still manage to scratch my wheels, especially in the area around where the lug nuts go in. The nuts are also scratched up pretty good with all the shiny metal score morks on the dark finish. I am so used to all the fools not giving a damn about other peoples stuff I probably won't even complain about it. VOB BMW are such Fukk-ups, they pretty much got me used to it. __________________ 09'M3 JerezB/Tech/Cold/Prem/PDC/SR/Black Leather/ANTHRACITE Sycamore/IPOD/USB/Rear Sunshade/Premium Sounnd/6MT*Just Hit The Ground! Delivery 02/25/2009*
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11-30-2010, 04:55 PM	#2
PKL Brigadier General 849 Rep 3,274 Posts Drives: 2020 M4, 2022 X6 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: San Fernando Valley iTrader: (1)	sucks. __________________
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11-30-2010, 05:12 PM	#3
zhangzeyuandss Captain 62 Rep 939 Posts Drives: e92 m3, 911 GTS manual,F80,G80 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Houston, Tx iTrader: (9)	yeah .. that sucks __________________ 2011.5 mineral white e92 zcp 6mt m3
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11-30-2010, 05:21 PM	#4
sameh Lieutenant Colonel 171 Rep 1,530 Posts Drives: 2015 Porsche 911S Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Texas iTrader: (0)	WTF!!!! you can say anything you want about E9x M3 but when it gets to high revving, it's just a fact not subject to miss-interpretations!! Listen man, I got the middle finger just stopping in a red light, the reason was, I was driving an M3. Get used to this *hit. __________________ 2011 E92 JB/BL/DCT--->80K Miles 2015 F80 SS/SO/DCT?->28K Miles 2015 Porsche 911S
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11-30-2010, 06:43 PM	#5
pmeloche Lieutenant Colonel 24 Rep 1,604 Posts Drives: 2013 F25 X3 xDrive35i Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Montréal, Canada iTrader: (0)	What do they consider to be high-revving if 8300 rpm is not? I can't comment on the linearity of the powerband but it seems to me that the M3 has a high-revving engine. __________________ Patrice 2013 F25 X3 xDrive35i Vermillion Red
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_Jono_ Second Lieutenant 24 Rep 217 Posts Drives: 2011 M3 DCT, 2012 GTR, Speed3 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: South Florida iTrader: (0)	Your kidding me? wow
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11-30-2010, 07:42 PM	#7
prichards516 Lieutenant 30 Rep 482 Posts Drives: e92 M3 zcp Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Long Island, NY iTrader: (2)	i bet if he had the opportunity to jump into the e9x he would ditch the e46 in heartbeat.
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///V\3Dude I Drive Slow To Save Gas :D $///V\3Dude's Avatar$ 26 Rep 464 Posts Drives: 08 M3, MY11 STi Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: I <3 NY iTrader: (2)	Tell them a honda S2000 isn't high revving. It's all in their mind. I had a S2k, that thing was high revving but it didn't feel like the M3. My m3 pulled through out the powerband. My S2k felt like the revs on the meter were just for show. <<<hope that made sense, im testing out this app on the iphone __________________
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11-30-2010, 10:08 PM	#9
thai357sig Lieutenant 30 Rep 409 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Amerika iTrader: (0)	Yeah, it seems it was sort of of sour grapes. I kind of got the feeling he was trying to explain and justify why he was happy with his e46 and the reasons why he did not want to jump to the e9X. I think it was more economics than anything else. Sometimes it is better to leave people delusional. Peace. __________________ 09'M3 JerezB/Tech/Cold/Prem/PDC/SR/Black Leather/ANTHRACITE Sycamore/IPOD/USB/Rear Sunshade/Premium Sounnd/6MT*Just Hit The Ground! Delivery 02/25/2009*
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edcvin Captain 126 Rep 880 Posts Drives: 2006 M5 \| 2011 M3 \| 2020 X3M Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: New York iTrader: (1)	^^I'd say your dead on with that. -Vin
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12-01-2010, 09:44 PM	#11
swamp2 Lieutenant General 611 Rep 10,407 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: San Diego, CA USA iTrader: (3)	The broad and flat torque curve that the E9X M3 has it one of its most amazing technical accomplishments. This translates directly to a completely linear power curve. That person does not know their terminology nor the match between the feel of the car/engine and the term "linear". __________________ E92 M3 \| Space Gray on Fox Red \| M-DCT \| CF Roof \| RAC RG63 Wheels \| Brembo 380mm BBK \| \| Vorsteiner Ti Exhaust \| Matte Black Grilles/Side Gills/Rear Emblem/Mirrors \| \| Alekshop Back up Camera \| GP Thunders \| BMW Aluminum Pedals \| Elite Angels \| \| XPEL Full Front Wrap \| Hardwired V1 \| Interior Xenon Light Kit \|
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12-02-2010, 12:06 PM	#14
double_j First Lieutenant 86 Rep 331 Posts Drives: 2008 JB/B E90 M3 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Northeast USA iTrader: (0)	I will say that although the E9X is clearly faster, the E46 was a bit more of a rush to drive. High revving or not, the E9X is much more restrained and relaxed at all speeds. This is a good and a bad thing.
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12-02-2010, 12:12 PM	#15
330CIZHP Major 62 Rep 1,211 Posts Drives: BMW 330 CI ZHP Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Calgary, Alberta iTrader: (0)	E46 S54 engine is way too peaky. It delivers most of its torque above 5000 rpm. The E9X S65 delivers a far flatter torque curve starting at 4000 rpm and goes uptill 8400 rpm. Interestingly, he should know E9X revs 500 rpm higher than the S54 (7900 rpm vs 8400 rpm). __________________ ""A great sounding, responsive, high-revving, naturally aspirated engine is part of the DNA of a thoroughbred sports car. No two ways about it." - Lamborghini on turbocharging
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12-02-2010, 04:35 PM	#16
V1.47fan Banned 1979 Rep 1,847 Posts Drives: TheArtist formerly known as M3 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: NATIONWIDE iTrader: (0)	Please,Can you post some pics?
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