Are the mods worth it to you?

F82_SID · 12-15-2010, 10:37 AM

I just wanted to get the forums opinions on if your quasi-legal mods are worth the risk of getting stopped or ticketed to you?

What I am talking about is if you exhaust is louder then your local noise ordinance allows; is the risk of a getting stopped and ticketed worth it to you?

If your tint is darker then the legal limit; is the risk of a getting stopped and ticketed worth it to you?

If you roll with no front bumper plate, is the risk of a getting stopped and ticketed worth it to you?

I ask this because I keep getting shit from everybody because I always have 5% tint on my cars and I never put the front license plate.

Krozi · 12-15-2010, 10:40 AM

Idk about the front bumper lol...but the other stuff is worth it for sure.

PKL · 12-15-2010, 11:00 AM

when he says front bumper I'm sure he meant from license plate

Gkap · 12-15-2010, 11:11 AM

They are worth it IMO. The only thing I would do is put on the front plate.
On my previous car I was pulled over 10 times in the 4 years I had it for no front
plate. The car was heavily modified so It gave them a reason, and everytime they did
thats when they started looking/questioning other things on the car, tint etc. After I mounted it (didnt drill holes into the bumper but found another way to mount it) I wasn't bothered again.

erm324 · 12-15-2010, 11:13 AM

I am located in NY and have no front plate with 5% tints.....never got pulled over yet (knock on wood)

on my previous 335 with 20% tints it was a weekly routine to get ticketed for them...
lol

1sikbmr · 12-15-2010, 11:36 AM

That sweet sweet V8 sound is reason enough...

Eau Rouge · 12-15-2010, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by E92_SID

I just wanted to get the forums opinions on if your quasi-legal mods are worth the risk of getting stopped or ticketed to you?

What I am talking about is if you exhaust is louder then your local noise ordinance allows; is the risk of a getting stopped and ticketed worth it to you?

If your tint is darker then the legal limit; is the risk of a getting stopped and ticketed worth it to you?

If you roll with no front bumper plate, is the risk of a getting stopped and ticketed worth it to you?

I ask this because I keep getting shit from everybody because I always have 5% tint on my cars and I never put the front license plate.

I wouldn't worry about what those who are giving you shit say unless they = law enforcement officers.

Opinions will vary of course, but the concerns you've raised are legitimate.
The rules of thumb for me for past and future cars, even when living in two-plate-requiring-Texas some years ago, have been, for exhaust, choose carefully keeping in mind ordinances, zeal factor of local law enforcement; for tint, stay within that which is legal; for bumper, never ever under no circumstances mount a plate on the front bumper regardless of state requirement. No officer has ever raised "front plate" with me in some twenty years of living in 2-plate states, and now that's unlikely to ever be an issue since I'm quite happy to go with a single FL plate which saves on weight and drag.

cloud8r · 12-15-2010, 12:21 PM

Front plate, front reflectors, and tint (within reason) are all acceptable risks to me. Front plates, aside from increased identification, are primarily for red light cameras, a supposed cash generator for cities and illegal imo. Front reflectors, to increase your visibility at night, so I'll assume the risk on that. And tint so that your vision is not obstructed in low light, in addition to police being able to see in. I'll assume the risk on the former, as for the latter, that's why I say within reason. If you put yourself in the cop's position, he does have a dangerous job. If he can't see in well, he's not going to be happy. And if he's not happy, you won't be. So.... within reason.

TIP: If you have really dark tint, remember to turn on your interior light if pulled over at night. Might avoid a fix-it for that if he realized you're considerate and don't piss him off with the dark tint.

F82_SID · 12-15-2010, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ramyar

TIP: If you have really dark tint, remember to turn on your interior light if pulled over at night. Might avoid a fix-it for that if he realized you're considerate and don't piss him off with the dark tint.

Good tip!

cloud8r · 12-15-2010, 12:37 PM

Forgot to mention exhaust. IMO exhaust sound also needs to be within reason. This is simply a matter of being considerate towards others, especially neighbors. While we might love how the exhaust sounds, it's also important to realize how our actions can affect those around us. Elderly with sensitive hearing/hearing aids, people with sleeping babies, sleeping neighbors, people having conversations they have to stop for someone with a loud exhaust going by, the list can go on. IMO most of the attention you get from a super loud exhaust is "WTF is that" or "Stupid kids," not "Whoa that's a nice car, bet it's fast." And an exhaust this loud is what will attract police attention, which can lead to subsequent tickets for tint, front plate, etc. for your other violations. The cop may also want to "teach you a lesson" if he thinks you're being inconsiderate, so keep that in mind. So an exhaust mod is certainly not a bad mod imo, so as long as it's within reason and you're considerate.

ooowowizstev · 12-15-2010, 01:21 PM

Definitely worth it

OC3 · 12-15-2010, 01:23 PM

As cars pull in at the local bimmer meet I go to, exhaust on each subsequent cars that pull in are louder & louder. It's almost like a contest. A few sounds like it burns thru 2 gallons of gas just to park. Mine must be just about the only OE M3 out there, except the Huper Optik tint I recently had put on.

Psylight · 12-15-2010, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SehrSchnell

Just caved and put a front plate on it... I already have a target on my back driving that thing, don't wanna give them another reason to pull me over.

+1

Although it looks way better with the blasted plates off, youre totally right. The benefit between the car having no plates is not greater than having plates and cops not really screwing with you so much.

Say NO to drilling! Say YES to 3M Industrial Strength Molding Tape!

mdosu · 12-15-2010, 04:15 PM

The only thing now worth it for mods is the resale value of the parts.

OC3 · 12-15-2010, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by mdosu

The only thing now worth it for mods is the resale value of the parts.

Man, that dude in your Avatar pict looks just like the sales guy I got the '08 M3 from (except he's in a suit). LOL

Psylight · 12-15-2010, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SehrSchnell

+1

HAHA cool, that doesnt look too bad!

F82_SID · 12-16-2010, 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SehrSchnell

+1

That actually looks pretty good. Any more picts? Did you just mount with tape?

smmmurf · 12-16-2010, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by shift@red

^what happened to the middle of your front bumper?

dude, read his post

BlackLight · 12-16-2010, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SehrSchnell

+1

That is just fugly! Center that sucker!

OC3 · 12-16-2010, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SehrSchnell

Sorry! I'll do it right now, anonymous internet guy.

lol

BTW, re: moving the plate to the other side (into the hole w/ the tow hook), most M3's I see at local meets are like that. Some guys even fabricate something so that it's a quick-release (or, was it quick-snap-on?).

SHADY1 · 12-16-2010, 06:41 PM

I have a few mods that could get me a ticket. Catless exhaust, tinted tail lights, blue angel eyes. I know I am driving on borrowed time

but I love my mods

sensi09 · 12-19-2010, 04:34 PM

In terms of plain dollar value, I don't think any mods are worth it really, most are even quite overpriced. A couple grand for an axle-back exhaust is terribly expensive IMO. And a $80 for painted reflectors, I guess they cost twice as much to paint then the s54 M3 reflectors.....

But I digress....there are a few mods that I still want to get.

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12-15-2010, 10:37 AM	#1
F82_SID Brigadier General 214 Rep 3,153 Posts Drives: 2020 M2C 6mt HK Silver Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Denver, CO. USA iTrader: (2)	Are the mods worth it to you? I just wanted to get the forums opinions on if your quasi-legal mods are worth the risk of getting stopped or ticketed to you? What I am talking about is if you exhaust is louder then your local noise ordinance allows; is the risk of a getting stopped and ticketed worth it to you? If your tint is darker then the legal limit; is the risk of a getting stopped and ticketed worth it to you? If you roll with no front bumper plate, is the risk of a getting stopped and ticketed worth it to you? I ask this because I keep getting shit from everybody because I always have 5% tint on my cars and I never put the front license plate. __________________ 2011/E92/M3/MR/BB/ZCV/ZP2/EDC/2MT Last edited by F82_SID; 12-15-2010 at 11:22 AM..
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12-15-2010, 10:40 AM	#2
Krozi Colonel 168 Rep 2,736 Posts Drives: 2008 E92 ///M3 Alpine White Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: SoFla - Bonita Springs iTrader: (24)	Idk about the front bumper lol...but the other stuff is worth it for sure. __________________ 2008 E92 ///M3 Alpine White//Fox Red//6MT// Florida Bimmer - Join us on FaceBook!
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12-15-2010, 11:00 AM	#3
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12-15-2010, 11:11 AM	#4
Gkap BMF Movement 51 Rep 3,024 Posts Drives: Women Crazy Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: GTA iTrader: (1)	They are worth it IMO. The only thing I would do is put on the front plate. On my previous car I was pulled over 10 times in the 4 years I had it for no front plate. The car was heavily modified so It gave them a reason, and everytime they did thats when they started looking/questioning other things on the car, tint etc. After I mounted it (didnt drill holes into the bumper but found another way to mount it) I wasn't bothered again.
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12-15-2010, 11:13 AM	#5
erm324 Major 122 Rep 1,202 Posts Drives: F10 M5 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NYC iTrader: (1)	I am located in NY and have no front plate with 5% tints.....never got pulled over yet (knock on wood) on my previous 335 with 20% tints it was a weekly routine to get ticketed for them... lol
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12-15-2010, 11:36 AM	#6
1sikbmr Brigadier General 145 Rep 3,329 Posts Drives: F80 M3 6MT Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: New York iTrader: (16)	That sweet sweet V8 sound is reason enough... __________________ F80 ///M3 6MT Avus Blue ZCP
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12-15-2010, 12:21 PM	#8
cloud8r Member BMW CCA Los Angeles 32 Rep 470 Posts Drives: 2022 M8 GC Comp Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Trabuco Canyon, CA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2018 BMW M4 [0.00]	Front plate, front reflectors, and tint (within reason) are all acceptable risks to me. Front plates, aside from increased identification, are primarily for red light cameras, a supposed cash generator for cities and illegal imo. Front reflectors, to increase your visibility at night, so I'll assume the risk on that. And tint so that your vision is not obstructed in low light, in addition to police being able to see in. I'll assume the risk on the former, as for the latter, that's why I say within reason. If you put yourself in the cop's position, he does have a dangerous job. If he can't see in well, he's not going to be happy. And if he's not happy, you won't be. So.... within reason. TIP: If you have really dark tint, remember to turn on your interior light if pulled over at night. Might avoid a fix-it for that if he realized you're considerate and don't piss him off with the dark tint. __________________ Current Rides: 2022 ///M8 GC Comp Much enjoyed: 2018 ///M4 ZCP \|\| 2014 ///M5 ZCP \|\| 2011.5 ///M3 Sedan \|\| 2007 ///M Coupe \|\| 2008 550i Sport \|\| 2006 ///M3 ZCP \|\| 2008 X3 3.0si \|\| 2006 325i \|\| 2003 Z4 3.0 Roadster \|\| 2003 330ci \|\| 2002 325i
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cloud8r Member BMW CCA Los Angeles 32 Rep 470 Posts Drives: 2022 M8 GC Comp Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Trabuco Canyon, CA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2018 BMW M4 [0.00]	Forgot to mention exhaust. IMO exhaust sound also needs to be within reason. This is simply a matter of being considerate towards others, especially neighbors. While we might love how the exhaust sounds, it's also important to realize how our actions can affect those around us. Elderly with sensitive hearing/hearing aids, people with sleeping babies, sleeping neighbors, people having conversations they have to stop for someone with a loud exhaust going by, the list can go on. IMO most of the attention you get from a super loud exhaust is "WTF is that" or "Stupid kids," not "Whoa that's a nice car, bet it's fast." And an exhaust this loud is what will attract police attention, which can lead to subsequent tickets for tint, front plate, etc. for your other violations. The cop may also want to "teach you a lesson" if he thinks you're being inconsiderate, so keep that in mind. So an exhaust mod is certainly not a bad mod imo, so as long as it's within reason and you're considerate. __________________ Current Rides: 2022 ///M8 GC Comp Much enjoyed: 2018 ///M4 ZCP \|\| 2014 ///M5 ZCP \|\| 2011.5 ///M3 Sedan \|\| 2007 ///M Coupe \|\| 2008 550i Sport \|\| 2006 ///M3 ZCP \|\| 2008 X3 3.0si \|\| 2006 325i \|\| 2003 Z4 3.0 Roadster \|\| 2003 330ci \|\| 2002 325i
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12-15-2010, 01:21 PM	#11
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OC3 Havin' a blast! 125 Rep 4,847 Posts Drives: 2013 M3 E92 Jerez Blk DCT ZCP Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: SoCal iTrader: (1)	As cars pull in at the local bimmer meet I go to, exhaust on each subsequent cars that pull in are louder & louder. It's almost like a contest. A few sounds like it burns thru 2 gallons of gas just to park. Mine must be just about the only OE M3 out there, except the Huper Optik tint I recently had put on. __________________ BRP 1:56 \| CVR 2:01 \| ACS 1:53 \| WSIR 1:34
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12-15-2010, 04:15 PM	#14
mdosu Banned 314 Rep 8,496 Posts Drives: Double Vanos'd Civic-M3 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: San Francisco iTrader: (6)	The only thing now worth it for mods is the resale value of the parts.
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12-16-2010, 06:41 PM	#21
SHADY1 Hamann M3 Fan 298 Rep 2,885 Posts Drives: E92 M3 & F10 M5 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Killeen, Texas iTrader: (6) Garage List 2013 BMW M5 [0.00] 2008 E92 M3 Coupe [8.14]	The mods are worth the risk to me I have a few mods that could get me a ticket. Catless exhaust, tinted tail lights, blue angel eyes. I know I am driving on borrowed time but I love my mods __________________ JZB,6MT, My mods 360 Forged 20inch wheels,VF650 Supercharger custom tuned,ARH Long Tube Headers,Hamann CF roof spoiler,H&R springs,CF grills,Hamann rear trunk spoiler,Hamann Side Skirts, ARKYM full CF bumper, Gintani Race exhaust, ARH X-pipe catless,RPI scoops,AA SSK, Arkym CF Double Sided Vented Hood,
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12-19-2010, 04:34 PM	#22
sensi09 Lieutenant Colonel 30 Rep 1,789 Posts Drives: . Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: socal iTrader: (1)	In terms of plain dollar value, I don't think any mods are worth it really, most are even quite overpriced. A couple grand for an axle-back exhaust is terribly expensive IMO. And a $80 for painted reflectors, I guess they cost twice as much to paint then the s54 M3 reflectors..... But I digress....there are a few mods that I still want to get.
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