Torn AGAIN

M3Fool · 03-31-2011, 12:13 PM

Here is the situation............ I am not rich, I am a Federal Employee working for the Dept of Defense in Germany. The M3 has been a dream car, but the monthly financial hit is getting old. I have mine for sale and am looking at a 2009 E90 M3 Space Grey extended Fox interior fully loaded with 15k miles on it for 50k............. that would reduce my payments by about 200 bones a month and 3 sets of rims one of which are brand new ADV's... had my mind set on this (provided I get mine sold) until.........

I came across this:

2010 SHELBY GT 500...... 9800 miles for 48k...... I LOVE the Shelby and an opportunity to buy one in Germany is almost ZERO. I have seen one in person in the last 4 years.

What to do??

persian54 · 03-31-2011, 12:22 PM

personally I'm not a fan of Shelby cars... but if it's what you want, and it's rarity, I say go for it

but i don't think selling a 11 to get a 09 just to save a couple bucks per month is worth it

look at the resale value in a few years of a 11 vs 09

11 will have warranty, 09 wont

I Wanna go Fast! · 03-31-2011, 12:27 PM

Tough choice. That GT500 is a beast and it looks pretty good too.

I LOVE my M3 but I think you get more bang for you buck with the Shelby.

M3Fool · 03-31-2011, 12:29 PM

Any one with experience in both??? I have heard the GT500 has a tough time "hooking up" due to the 500 ft pounds of torque.

I Wanna go Fast! · 03-31-2011, 12:32 PM

Wouldn't any car that is RWD. i personally love the white with light grey stripes. I could actually sell my 08 m3 and get a brand new GT 500 for an extra 10K. I have been tempted.

M3Fool · 03-31-2011, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by persian54

personally I'm not a fan of Shelby cars... but if it's what you want, and it's rarity, I say go for it

but i don't think selling a 11 to get a 09 just to save a couple bucks per month is worth it

look at the resale value in a few years of a 11 vs 09

11 will have warranty, 09 wont

I am thinking resale value of the Shelby in Germany..... to a German may prove lucrative. I don't know. I have had a couple of hits on mine, but nothing serious yet, so this is all just speculation. It is difficult to sell high end cars to Soldiers, and an M3 is a "high end" car in my circles..lol

quality_sound · 03-31-2011, 01:35 PM

I've seen 3 or 4 in the K-Town area but I agree with the above comment, selling an '11 to get an '09 to only save $200/mo isn't worth it. If you were saving $300/mo AND getting better mileage it'd be another story.

Keep the '11.

sameh · 03-31-2011, 01:46 PM

How about Shelby's maintenance in Germany? I'd imagine it would be expensive and inconvenient.

immiketoo · 03-31-2011, 01:50 PM

I don't think you can go wrong with either car. It's YOUR budget, so do what makes sense to you. That said, I would still opt for the M3 over the Shelby, despite the power.

persian54 · 03-31-2011, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by M3Fool

I am thinking resale value of the Shelby in Germany..... to a German may prove lucrative. I don't know. I have had a couple of hits on mine, but nothing serious yet, so this is all just speculation. It is difficult to sell high end cars to Soldiers, and an M3 is a "high end" car in my circles..lol

It's high end in my circles too lol

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Originally Posted by quality_sound

I've seen 3 or 4 in the K-Town area but I agree with the above comment, selling an '11 to get an '09 to only save $200/mo isn't worth it. If you were saving $300/mo AND getting better mileage it'd be another story.

Keep the '11.

Not even worth it at 300
If he was able to save 300 AND get 8k or so cash in his pocket, then I'd say it's worth it

jmflukeiii · 03-31-2011, 01:53 PM

I remember being in Netherlands for a soccer tournament I played in and our tour bus driver kept telling me he really wanted a buick... I said, I love BMWs why not those? And he said everyone has them over here.....

I think you should get the Shelby. It's more fun to have a car that no one else has

M3Fool · 03-31-2011, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by persian54

It's high end in my circles too lol

Not even worth it at 300
If he was able to save 300 AND get 8k or so cash in his pocket, then I'd say it's worth it

I am selling my M for 56k and the M3 I am looking at is 47k...50k with the ADV's.

The Shelby is 49k so I am getting some coin in the pocket and saving on the Car Payment and I would imagine on the insurance as well.

persian54 · 03-31-2011, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by M3Fool

I am selling my M for 56k and the M3 I am looking at is 47k...50k with the ADV's.

The Shelby is 49k so I am getting some coin in the pocket and saving on the Car Payment and I would imagine on the insurance as well.

insurance no.. at least not over here not sure how it is over there

see if you can get the 09 for 46k with the ADVs

sell the ADVs and you got it for about 44k.

That I would do

karussell · 03-31-2011, 02:37 PM

i know the GT500 you are talking about. the owner works near me. 2010's were very front heavy and all but undriveable unless you want to just go fast in straight line. i think its priced too high as well. Its been on the market for months now. german's have to pay import tax on top of vat for it so add 29% to the sellers asking price and you still have to add all the equipment to make it legal in germany. all added up, its cheaper for germans usually to just buy on the economy than importing one. hell, the cost of shipping a car over here is only $2K. they have entire US market to choose from if they wanted to go that avenue.

US spec M3 market is saturated in germany. I think it will be a tough sell at your asking price.

M3Fool · 03-31-2011, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by karussell

i know the GT500 you are talking about. the owner works near me. 2010's were very front heavy and all but undriveable unless you want to just go fast in straight line. i think its priced too high as well. Its been on the market for months now. german's have to pay import tax on top of vat for it so add 29% to the sellers asking price and you still have to add all the equipment to make it legal in germany. all added up, its cheaper for germans usually to just buy on the economy than importing one. hell, the cost of shipping a car over here is only $2K. they have entire US market to choose from if they wanted to go that avenue.

US spec M3 market is saturated in germany. I think it will be a tough sell at your asking price.

Maybe subliminally I dont want to sell it...lol

eisenb11 · 03-31-2011, 03:22 PM

This looks like bad math.

You're talking about selling an '11 for a '09 just to save $6k?

Considering the higher resale value when you eventually do want to sell the car, the niceties of having a warranty (just wait until 1 halfway important component breaks), and the service... the savings just don't seem significant enough.

$200 / month doesn't seem like a fair deal in the big picture. Personally, I wouldn't do it...

James T. Kirk · 03-31-2011, 04:28 PM

You are already spoiled with your M3.
Going to the Shelby may be exciting at first, but it will get old very quickly on you. You may regret the decision.
Certainly there is something else in your budget you can cut... perhaps food and water!

scottEdog1 · 03-31-2011, 04:35 PM

IMO you will regret it I think. The m3 is better in every way despite power.
get the 09 which sounds like a good decision

drvai · 03-31-2011, 05:36 PM

Personally, I think that if you need to downgrade from a 2011 car to a 2009 (same model) to save 200/month, means you should be more conservative and buy something for much less. For example a 335 or 328. Both, the M3 and shelby are pretty thirsty and gas in europe is not cheap, so you also have to consider that expense. Shelby will be difficult to maintain, get parts, etc...

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Originally Posted by M3Fool

Here is the situation............ I am not rich, I am a Federal Employee working for the Dept of Defense in Germany. The M3 has been a dream car, but the monthly financial hit is getting old. I have mine for sale and am looking at a 2009 E90 M3 Space Grey extended Fox interior fully loaded with 15k miles on it for 50k............. that would reduce my payments by about 200 bones a month and 3 sets of rims one of which are brand new ADV's... had my mind set on this (provided I get mine sold) until.........
I came across this:
2010 SHELBY GT 500...... 9800 miles for 48k...... I LOVE the Shelby and an opportunity to buy one in Germany is almost ZERO. I have seen one in person in the last 4 years.
What to do??

half man half amazin · 03-31-2011, 08:52 PM

I agree that it's not wise to go from 11 to 09 for only $200 a month. Either bite the bullet and stick it out or downgrade to a much cheaper vehicle as others have suggested.

M3Fool · 04-01-2011, 01:36 AM

Thanks for all the imput guys....... I will NEVER downgrade to a 335i or even worse a 328i. If I need to get rid of my M3 it will be for something of at least similar caliber.

That being said.......... I am going to hang on to mine for a while and see what comes up

I never said I could not "afford" the M3....... what is getting irritating is how much more expensive everything else is getting over here....... and the dollar to euro exchange rate SUCKS BALLS.

My wife is completely against me selling the ///M, so I will hang on to her for a while longer.

MVF4Rrider · 04-01-2011, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by M3Fool

My wife is completely against me selling the ///M, so I will hang on to her for a while longer.

The car or your wife?

03-31-2011, 12:13 PM	#1
M3Fool Loves FFDP 50 Rep 781 Posts Drives: 11 E90 M3 SOLD 11 5.0 'Stang Join Date: May 2010 Location: Germany iTrader: (0)	Torn AGAIN Here is the situation............ I am not rich, I am a Federal Employee working for the Dept of Defense in Germany. The M3 has been a dream car, but the monthly financial hit is getting old. I have mine for sale and am looking at a 2009 E90 M3 Space Grey extended Fox interior fully loaded with 15k miles on it for 50k............. that would reduce my payments by about 200 bones a month and 3 sets of rims one of which are brand new ADV's... had my mind set on this (provided I get mine sold) until......... I came across this: 2010 SHELBY GT 500...... 9800 miles for 48k...... I LOVE the Shelby and an opportunity to buy one in Germany is almost ZERO. I have seen one in person in the last 4 years. What to do?? __________________ Glory may be fleeting, but mediocrity ensures anonymity...
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persian54 Lieutenant General 928 Rep 15,818 Posts Drives: M760/G83M4 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: The Valley, SoCal iTrader: (298)	personally I'm not a fan of Shelby cars... but if it's what you want, and it's rarity, I say go for it but i don't think selling a 11 to get a 09 just to save a couple bucks per month is worth it look at the resale value in a few years of a 11 vs 09 11 will have warranty, 09 wont __________________ From E93 335i to E89 Z4 to E93 M3/E89 Z4 to E350/SL550
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I Wanna go Fast! Private First Class 26 Rep 198 Posts Drives: 08 l E90 l AW l PREMIUM l TECH Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Illinois iTrader: (0)	Tough choice. That GT500 is a beast and it looks pretty good too. I LOVE my M3 but I think you get more bang for you buck with the Shelby. __________________ ///M 08 l E90 l AW l 6MT l TECH l PREMIUM l 19 220M
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M3Fool Loves FFDP 50 Rep 781 Posts Drives: 11 E90 M3 SOLD 11 5.0 'Stang Join Date: May 2010 Location: Germany iTrader: (0)	Any one with experience in both??? I have heard the GT500 has a tough time "hooking up" due to the 500 ft pounds of torque. __________________ Glory may be fleeting, but mediocrity ensures anonymity...
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I Wanna go Fast! Private First Class 26 Rep 198 Posts Drives: 08 l E90 l AW l PREMIUM l TECH Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Illinois iTrader: (0)	Wouldn't any car that is RWD. i personally love the white with light grey stripes. I could actually sell my 08 m3 and get a brand new GT 500 for an extra 10K. I have been tempted. __________________ ///M 08 l E90 l AW l 6MT l TECH l PREMIUM l 19 220M
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quality_sound 8 tracks of madness 62 Rep 2,735 Posts Drives: Slowly Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: At home iTrader: (1)	I've seen 3 or 4 in the K-Town area but I agree with the above comment, selling an '11 to get an '09 to only save $200/mo isn't worth it. If you were saving $300/mo AND getting better mileage it'd be another story. Keep the '11.
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sameh Lieutenant Colonel 171 Rep 1,530 Posts Drives: 2015 Porsche 911S Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Texas iTrader: (0)	How about Shelby's maintenance in Germany? I'd imagine it would be expensive and inconvenient. __________________ 2011 E92 JB/BL/DCT--->80K Miles 2015 F80 SS/SO/DCT?->28K Miles 2015 Porsche 911S
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karussell Lieutenant Colonel 356 Rep 1,749 Posts Drives: 4 wheels Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: NorCal iTrader: (1)	i know the GT500 you are talking about. the owner works near me. 2010's were very front heavy and all but undriveable unless you want to just go fast in straight line. i think its priced too high as well. Its been on the market for months now. german's have to pay import tax on top of vat for it so add 29% to the sellers asking price and you still have to add all the equipment to make it legal in germany. all added up, its cheaper for germans usually to just buy on the economy than importing one. hell, the cost of shipping a car over here is only $2K. they have entire US market to choose from if they wanted to go that avenue. US spec M3 market is saturated in germany. I think it will be a tough sell at your asking price. __________________ "It gave you amazing satisfaction, but anyone who says he loved it is either a liar or he wasn't going fast enough." - Jackie Stewart on racing at the Nurburgring
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eisenb11 Major 53 Rep 1,153 Posts Drives: 2012 E92 M3 SSII Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Redondo Beach, CA, USA iTrader: (0)	This looks like bad math. You're talking about selling an '11 for a '09 just to save $6k? Considering the higher resale value when you eventually do want to sell the car, the niceties of having a warranty (just wait until 1 halfway important component breaks), and the service... the savings just don't seem significant enough. $200 / month doesn't seem like a fair deal in the big picture. Personally, I wouldn't do it...
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James T. Kirk Captain of the Enterprise 101 Rep 1,424 Posts Drives: 2011 1 Series M Coupe Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Alpha Quadrant, Sector 001 iTrader: (0)	You are already spoiled with your M3. Going to the Shelby may be exciting at first, but it will get old very quickly on you. You may regret the decision. Certainly there is something else in your budget you can cut... perhaps food and water! __________________ 2011 1 Series M Coupe VO M3 vs 1M Comparo Review 2011 M3 E90 DCT ZCP (sold) * 2010 335i Sedan (sold) 2005 M3 Convertible (sold) * 2003 325i Sedan (sold)
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M3Fool Loves FFDP 50 Rep 781 Posts Drives: 11 E90 M3 SOLD 11 5.0 'Stang Join Date: May 2010 Location: Germany iTrader: (0)	Thanks for all the imput guys....... I will NEVER downgrade to a 335i or even worse a 328i. If I need to get rid of my M3 it will be for something of at least similar caliber. That being said.......... I am going to hang on to mine for a while and see what comes up I never said I could not "afford" the M3....... what is getting irritating is how much more expensive everything else is getting over here....... and the dollar to euro exchange rate SUCKS BALLS. My wife is completely against me selling the ///M, so I will hang on to her for a while longer. __________________ Glory may be fleeting, but mediocrity ensures anonymity...
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