Locked inside car?

W Cole · 09-15-2013, 11:21 PM

Wanted to ask you guys if this is normal. I have owned my M3 for 2 years but never noticed this until today.

If someone is in the car and I lock it from the outside using the key fob then they cannot get out of the car by pulling the handle. Normally it takes a simple double pull to get out of the car when locked but if I lock it with the key fob this is not the case. This seems like a safety issue?

The only mod I have that could have an effect is the macht schnell EDC error canceller, but this shouldn't cause an issue.

M3ZCP6MT · 09-15-2013, 11:29 PM

Interestingly, my friends and I were talking about this issue last night. If you lock your car either with the remote or from the inside, you CAN NOT unlock it unless with remote or BMW Assist. Regardless if your second remote is in the car. Most Japanese cars are not able to lock doors with the remote (your spous's extra key etc)inside the car. Althought BMW call this an anti theft feature, IMO, this is one safety issue they need to reconsider. I think Coding will help with this.

overdose · 09-15-2013, 11:42 PM

Funny you mention this as I was just reading a news article today over at the ISF forums about a 14 y/o girl who died inside when she couldn't unlock the doors.

Edit: here's the link - http://www.kmph.com/story/23421319/p...ld-girls-death

STi_traitor · 09-16-2013, 12:14 AM

What about the lock/unlock button on the center dash, have you tried this?

Sapper_M3 · 09-16-2013, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by STi_traitor

What about the lock/unlock button on the center dash, have you tried this?

It's just crazy enough to work...

W Cole · 09-16-2013, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by STi_traitor

What about the lock/unlock button on the center dash, have you tried this?

Yeah it worked but I think I had to hit it twice to unlock the passenger door.

STi_traitor · 09-16-2013, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Sapper_M3

It's just crazy enough to work...

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Originally Posted by W Cole

Yeah it worked but I think I had to hit it twice to unlock the passenger door.

Wow, they should fix that. Pushing the button twice is the difference between life and death........

Nice thread guy!

STi_traitor · 09-16-2013, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by overdose

Funny you mention this as I was just reading a news article today over at the ISF forums about a 14 y/o girl who died inside when she couldn't unlock the doors.

Edit: here's the link - http://www.kmph.com/story/23421319/p...ld-girls-death

Either this person was too stupid to check her surroundings and witness the unlock/lock button on the dash or there really was a malfunction. I wouldn't be surprised if it was the first.

M3ZCP6MT · 09-16-2013, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by STi_traitor

Either this person was too stupid to check her surroundings ...

Please have some sympathy on the person who lost her family in the incident.

STi_traitor · 09-16-2013, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by M3ZCP6MT

Please have some sympathy on the person who lost her family in the incident.

I do have sympathy, I am just stating one of the possibilities. Sorry for being a bit rough. I tend to be that way.

W Cole · 09-16-2013, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by STi_traitor

Wow, they should fix that. Pushing the button twice is the difference between life and death........

Nice thread guy!

Made the thread to make sure my car is operating as designed since my warranty expires this Thursday. You're just cluttering up my thread with a bunch of useless bullshit. Not sure why?

I guess ill test it out for myself on a coworkers car tomm to be sure.

STi_traitor · 09-16-2013, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by W Cole

Made the thread to make sure my car is operating as designed since my warranty expires this Thursday. You're just cluttering up my thread with a bunch of useless bullshit. Not sure why?

I guess ill test it out for myself on a coworkers car tomm to be sure.

It is you who is cluttering the forum with this non sense, especially after you stated that you can get out of the car by pushing the damn unlock button from inside........

Next time hit the search button instead of starting a pointless topic.

Click Here!

M3ZCP6MT · 09-16-2013, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by STi_traitor

I do have sympathy, I am just stating one of the possibilities. Sorry for being a bit rough. I tend to be that way.

I appreciate you being upfront. Good man.

W Cole · 09-16-2013, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by STi_traitor

It is you who is cluttering the forum with this non sense, especially after you stated that you can get out of the car by pushing the damn unlock button from inside........

Next time hit the search button instead of starting a pointless topic.

Click Here!

I did search. Google and the forums. Didnt find anything specific to answer my question. Although I would very much like you to prove me wrong and link me to a thread where this has been discussed before.

The fact that I can get out of the car by using the central unlock button is irrelevant. Did you even read my post? I want to confirm its normal for the double pull unlock feature not to work if the car is locked with the remote.

Like I said hopefully I will be able to intercept a coworker tomorrow and test. Figured asking on the forums would be a lot easier.

STi_traitor · 09-16-2013, 02:16 AM

Okay.....you win.....

W Cole · 09-16-2013, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by STi_traitor

Okay.....you win.....

Okay thanks. So I am assuming this behavior is normal and common knowledge?

W Cole · 09-16-2013, 02:49 AM

Looks like I may be engaging the double lock feature? http://e60.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=337120

W Cole · 09-16-2013, 02:39 PM

I tested this out on two of my coworkers cars and in each case I could open the door with a double pull of the handle when I was locked inside using the remote. Unless there is a setting somewhere I am missing it looks like something is broken on my car. Can anyone confirm?

Haywood · 09-16-2013, 02:52 PM

This happens quite frequently. Take a look...

///M Power-Belgium · 09-16-2013, 02:58 PM

Our cars are not prisons

nullrouted · 09-16-2013, 03:07 PM

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Our cars are not prisons

Speak for yourself, I keep bread and water in my car just in case I get locked in by the remote and I can't find the central locking button.

///M Power-Belgium · 09-16-2013, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by nullrouted

Speak for yourself, I keep bread and water in my car just in case I get locked in by the remote and I can't find the central locking button.

+1 The day i need go into prison, the police find me already locked inside my car

09-15-2013, 11:21 PM	#1
W Cole Major 145 Rep 1,130 Posts Drives: 2009 M3 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Newport Coast, CA iTrader: (5)	Locked inside car? Wanted to ask you guys if this is normal. I have owned my M3 for 2 years but never noticed this until today. If someone is in the car and I lock it from the outside using the key fob then they cannot get out of the car by pulling the handle. Normally it takes a simple double pull to get out of the car when locked but if I lock it with the key fob this is not the case. This seems like a safety issue? The only mod I have that could have an effect is the macht schnell EDC error canceller, but this shouldn't cause an issue.
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M3ZCP6MT Captain 72 Rep 604 Posts Drives: 381 ///M3 Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Orange County iTrader: (0)	Interestingly, my friends and I were talking about this issue last night. If you lock your car either with the remote or from the inside, you CAN NOT unlock it unless with remote or BMW Assist. Regardless if your second remote is in the car. Most Japanese cars are not able to lock doors with the remote (your spous's extra key etc)inside the car. Althought BMW call this an anti theft feature, IMO, this is one safety issue they need to reconsider. I think Coding will help with this. __________________ . /// M3 + 6MT + ZCP + ///MPE = A Healthy Addiction ///
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09-16-2013, 02:49 AM	#17
W Cole Major 145 Rep 1,130 Posts Drives: 2009 M3 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Newport Coast, CA iTrader: (5)	Looks like I may be engaging the double lock feature? http://e60.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=337120
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W Cole Major 145 Rep 1,130 Posts Drives: 2009 M3 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Newport Coast, CA iTrader: (5)	I tested this out on two of my coworkers cars and in each case I could open the door with a double pull of the handle when I was locked inside using the remote. Unless there is a setting somewhere I am missing it looks like something is broken on my car. Can anyone confirm?
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