E92 M3 Value - Up or Down

[ReddyFreddy]

With the new M3/ M4 coming soon. Will the E92 M3 with the V8 motor gain or lose value? Reason I am asking is, should I keep my M3 coupe or sell it now? I am interested in the M4, but, the sound of the naturally aspirated engine on my car is hard to match with turbos. I'm torn, any comments?

[MisterEm]

Originally Posted by ReddyFreddy

With the new M3/ M4 coming soon. Will the E92 M3 with the V8 motor gain or lose value? Reason I am asking is, should I keep my M3 coupe or sell it now? I am interested in the M4, but, the sound of the naturally aspirated engine on my car is hard to match with turbos. I'm torn, any comments?

My guess is it will go down, like other M cars - save some of the unique packages.

Take matters in your own hands and drive your current M3 coupe down to the dealer and swap keys for 15 minutes.

All concerns outside of financial issues will be addressed in the test drive.

Feels like 2008 all over again in the bimmer forum world!

[kyleb350]

The F82 will be better in all other aspects, and when it does go on sale, you will see a lot of E92's on the market regardless. You can guess what that will do to the value. Otherwise, I would say hold on to it for the long term to see what happens.

[tdizzle]

Cue comments about cars not being investments in 99.9% of cases and are depreciating assets.

[turbolag]

Originally Posted by MisterEm

My guess is it will go down, like other M cars - save some of the unique packages.

Take matters in your own hands and drive your current M3 coupe down to the dealer and swap keys for 15 minutes.

All concerns outside of financial issues will be addressed in the test drive.

Feels like 2008 all over again in the bimmer forum world!

I'm hoping financial disregards the fact that the F30 interior is pretty damn sub-par compared to the rest of the segment.

I wonder if ZCP will be one of those packages.

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by tdizzle

Cue comments about cars not being investments in 99.9% of cases and are depreciating assets.

Correct answer.

Cars that immediately (or nearly immediately) appreciate in value are typically those that saw very limited production and for which there is no direct successor. Think BMW Z8, Ford GT or possibly an Alfa 8C. Among cars currently in production I would say perhaps the Mercedes SLS will qualify - or at least the Black Series. Maybe there are a couple others. But even most exotic cars like a Ferrari F458 or McLaren MP4-12C will depreciate.

[Randy M]

The V8 may work in it's favor. If you want a V8 in a M3 it's your only choice. Some may not want turbos in the new car and/or the straight 6. From what I understand they're really good cars with no serious problems. And they still look great.

[Jaguar]

I own the current m3, and can't believe how overhyped the v8 is in the car. To me, it feels slower than my 335, heavier and has gas mileage that is mind blowingly horrible.

What it has in it's favor is the sound and looks.

[ArmyBimmerDude]

Originally Posted by starkindustries

I own the current m3, and can't believe how overhyped the v8 is in the car. To me, it feels slower than my 335, heavier and has gas mileage that is mind blowingly horrible.

What it has in it's favor is the sound and looks.

+1 Overhyped is the exact word to use.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by starkindustries

I own the current m3, and can't believe how overhyped the v8 is in the car. To me, it feels slower than my 335, heavier and has gas mileage that is mind blowingly horrible.

What it has in it's favor is the sound and looks.

I hate to use the word over-hyped but, damn....there really isn't another word that really fits. Don't get me wrong, I've LOVED every M3 that I've owned. With that said, the V8 is great....but it's not the end all, be all. People said the same thing about the S54 (..while shunning the introduction of the V8 because BMW moved away from an I6). We all see how that worked out. The S55 is going to be very, very relevant!

...but I digress...

OP, I sold my 2011.5 M3 in May of this year with 40k on the odometer and broke even (..I owed $48k and received exactly that). As these E9X's flood the market, the value will likely go down. Supply and demand is very real. When I sold mine, it was very hard to find an E92 coupe so I received top dollar. The car was gone in less than a week after being certified. Conversely, in 2011 it took about a month/month & a half to sell the 2008 E90 M3 that I traded in for the E92 M3.

[solstice]

IMO the BMW E9X M3 is arguably the best car BMW has built the last couple of years. It is universally lauded for both driving dynamics and reliability. I'm not worried about resale one bit, with a new car coming out or not.

[JDM3]

When the F82 can outperform my car I'll look into expanding my stable of cars. It's gonna be a while before I sell mine...

[mxa121]

first time I have ever seen the words E9X M3 and over hyped on this forum. :

[e92livin]

It's the last M3 coupe which is unique, but I think its still going to drop and easy to find once the F82 comes out. I don't think I will sell my E92 anyway..

[Transfer]

Looks like we found the forum members who have no idea how to drive a naturally aspirated M car. Overhyped... that's funny.

To OP, the E9x M3 will continue to depreciate, likely without any change in rate.

[jtvr4]

Originally Posted by mxa121

first time I have ever seen the words E9X M3 and over hyped on this forum. :

That's because some 335 owners feel the need to explain why they choose a 335 over an M3. Constantly. They think it makes their opinion matter more.


For what it's worth. I recently sold my 08 E90 M3 with 80k on it for $35,000. Less than two weeks. E46 M3's in good shape still run mid 20's. These aren't normal 335's which value plummet rather quickly.

[Ezio]

i don't think its going to go up in value. i think the E92 m3 will always be a wanted car though.

the new m4 is going to be lame though. i would rather get a Porsche at the point of a 6 cylinder engine.

a lot of new cars coming out in the next few years. its going to be great! not to mention the US is becoming the world`s largest oil producer! happy motoring

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by Transfer

Looks like we found the forum members who have no idea how to drive a naturally aspirated M car. Overhyped... that's funny.

To OP, the E9x M3 will continue to depreciate, likely without any change in rate.

Don't jump to so many conclusions. Some us "335i drivers" have owned multiple E46 and E9X M3's, and have PLENTY of experience with NA motors on and off the track.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by jtvr4

That's because some 335 owners feel the need to explain why they choose a 335 over an M3. Constantly. They think it makes their opinion matter more.


For what it's worth. I recently sold my 08 E90 M3 with 80k on it for $35,000. Less than two weeks. E46 M3's in good shape still run mid 20's. These aren't normal 335's which value plummet rather quickly.

....or maybe some of us have owned many an M3 and the 335i WASN'T an M3 replacement at all. You guys jump to too many conclusions and are too defensive (..or simply can't read).

[Transfer]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Don't jump to so many conclusions. Some us "335i drivers" have owned multiple E46 and E9X M3's, and have PLENTY of experience with NA motors on and off the track.

Sure. That's why you're not impressed with what is a crown jewel engine in BMW (and modern automobile) engineering history. I'm guessing the 997 GT3 is overhyped compared to the Turbo too?

I've never said the S55 wont be good, but power and torque isn't everything.

[paddy335]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

....or maybe some of us have owned many an M3 and the 335i WASN'T an M3 replacement at all. You guys jump to too many conclusions and are too defensive (..or simply can't read).

+1

It seems on this forum you can't be an owner of anything but an M3 as your current car to be eligible to pass comment. Regardless of your history as an M3 owner and admirer. But maybe I am generalising about a minority of younger, more tribal, contributors on the forum...

Anyway, to the OP, I am not sure how you think it is even vaguely possible that a mass production car, regardless of how cool the engine is, is going to increase in value as a used car. Values will continue to drop although good low mileage examples will stand out as depreciating less, but depreciating nonetheless.

I don't know about the American market, but in many other markets e.g. UK, Europe, the M3 used market has already tanked completely. Used M3's out of the UK are dirt cheap for very good examples.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by Transfer

Sure. That's why you're not impressed with what is a crown jewel engine in BMW (and modern automobile) engineering history. I'm guessing the 997 GT3 is overhyped compared to the Turbo too?

I've never said the S55 wont be good, but power and torque isn't everything.

Huh? Who said that I wasn't impressed by it? I'm just used to it.....just like anything else that I've had for a long time (..I've been driving the E9X M3's since they were introduced; I had an '08 E90 sedan and a '11.5 E92 coupe....and before that I owned 3 E46 M3's). Why else do you think I traded it? And what was "Sure!" supposed to mean? Are you asserting that I'm lying? It's not like you can't easily look back at my posts and check. After all, I've been on this site for a LONG TIME! This MUST be your first M3 because you're defensive like a fan boy (..see, I can jump to conclusions too!!). It's just like dating a really beautiful woman. At some point you just become used to her. The guys that don't have her dream about bedding her; you have her, and you'd rather grab a beer with the boys. Or having a nice pair of tits & ass laying next to you every night, but you're dreaming about the neighbor with the nice tits who waters her lawn daily in a white tank top and no bra. Understand the correlation?

As for the GT3.....that's my dream car for the moment. I'm sure that after owning one for a few years I'll be looking for the next best thing. It's just my fickle nature when it comes to cars. The bottom line is that you guys need to stop jumping to the conclusions the moment that somebody doesn't share your perspective. Frankly the E9X bores me much in the same way that racing a Ducati now bores me. S1000RR race bike? Yes please!


P.S. Crown jewel? Pffft! I've been around long enough to hear such statements describe the E36 M3, E46 M3 and now the E9X M3 (..ALL of which were initially hated and lambasted, and later labeled the "last of the real M3's"). Give the F8X a few years and it'll be the same shit.....ad nauseum.