F80/82 manual transmission question

[karussell]

I know about the throttle blip downshift feature. Is there any word on if the transmission locks out lower gear to prevent accidental money shift?

[ProbyOne]

I'm curious about this as well.

Something else that I wonder is how well it works with clutch-less shifting. If the rpms are held slightly too high (too low is ok) then you will not be able to "place" into gear as the engine rpms drop.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by karussell

I know about the throttle blip downshift feature. Is there any word on if the transmission locks out lower gear to prevent accidental money shift?

I certainly doubt it. It would require significant additional mechanical complexity and would add weight to the transmission. The auto rev match only requires electronics and a few sensors; no new mechanicals.

[JoeFromPA]

I don't think so - the trans as far as we know is identical to the 1M.

In 12 years of driving manuals, including high revvers with very tight gearbox patterns, I've never mis-shifted into a gear that places me above redline. It's a pretty uncommon occurrence to the point that it requires usually a real lack of skill.

Not saying this to be dismissive, just that it's not really a necessary feature either.

[JoeFromPA]

My point was that personally I see no value in it, but even beyond that within the general populace it's a very rare occurrence that typically happens among the most enthusiastic and youngest/least practiced of populations. It adds a trans complexity and cost to offer something that is almost never utilized.

Edit: looks like the previous post was outright removed as a personal attack. I removed my specific response to it.

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

I certainly doubt it. It would require significant additional mechanical complexity and would add weight to the transmission. The auto rev match only requires electronics and a few sensors; no new mechanicals.

This.

[imserious]

Originally Posted by JoeFromPA

I don't think so - the trans as far as we know is identical to the 1M.

In 12 years of driving manuals, including high revvers with very tight gearbox patterns, I've never mis-shifted into a gear that places me above redline. It's a pretty uncommon occurrence to the point that it requires usually a real lack of skill.

Not saying this to be dismissive, just that it's not really a necessary feature either.

You can also greatly minimize mis-shifting by not skipping gears. Row 6-5-4 vs. 6-4 or 5-4-3 vs. 5-3. Pretty hard to mis-shift just by going down one gear.

[karussell]

don't need debate on your excellent shifting skills. this is in reference to a car being campaigned 24 hrs with 4 very experienced professionals. mistakes can happen especially when you are tired and fighting traffic with 150 other tired drivers in 400+ hp cars fighting for same piece of tarmac. a shift lockout would be beneficial. as owner of the car i want to to weigh whats best transmission to go with. might be dct although i still don't prefer it for personal reasons.