G87 M2 vs Porsche Cayman 718 GTS - Drag Race

ronin13013 · 05-31-2023, 04:04 PM

stalker. "a person who harasses or persecutes someone with unwanted and obsessive attention. Why are you here dummy."
"Tracy claimed she was the victim of a stalker"

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Originally Posted by AmuroRay

How dare I comment on a post that is featured on the FRONT PAGE OF THE SITE.

AmuroRay · 05-31-2023, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by CodeSlinger

Haha that "barely track worthy"

beat a Cayman 718 GTS, a M2 comp and a Camaro SS 1LE. I know you're just here to troll people but man, that just makes me laugh.

With literal semi slick tires. People are touching themselves over the lap times, with the idea they will be running around town with these same tires.

The car is barely DD capable with them - they range from "ok" to "ok, this is scary" in the rain. You're not daily driving in this trim. On the normal tires, this car will be even more pedestrian than it already is.

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Originally Posted by ronin13013

stalker. "a person who harasses or persecutes someone with unwanted and obsessive attention. Why are you here dummy."
"Tracy claimed she was the victim of a stalker"

I not know who you are, I don't even think about you at all.

ronin13013 · 05-31-2023, 04:12 PM

Blah Blah. Dunce.

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Originally Posted by AmuroRay

With literal semi slick tires. People are touching themselves over the lap times, with the idea they will be running around town with these same tires.

The car is barely DD capable with them - they range from "ok" to "ok, this is scary" in the rain. You're not daily driving in this trim. On the normal tires, this car will be even more pedestrian than it already is.

I not know who you are, I don't even think about you at all.

CodeSlinger · 05-31-2023, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by AmuroRay

With literal semi slick tires. People are touching themselves over the lap times, with the idea they will be running around town with these same tires.

The car is barely DD capable with them - they range from "ok" to "ok, this is scary" in the rain. You're not daily driving in this trim. On the normal tires, this car will be even more pedestrian than it already is.

FWIW the SS 1LE is also on Cup 2 tires. Regardless if you can't admit that those times are well above "barely track worthy" than you truly are delusional.

AmuroRay · 05-31-2023, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CodeSlinger

FWIW the SS 1LE is also on Cup 2 tires. Regardless if you can't admit that those times are well above "barely track worthy" than you truly are delusional.

Where did I mention the Camaro?

m2ss · 05-31-2023, 04:17 PM

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CodeSlinger · 05-31-2023, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by AmuroRay

Where did I mention the Camaro?

I did, in the comment you replied to.

Ctothej · 05-31-2023, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by AmuroRay

With literal semi slick tires. People are touching themselves over the lap times, with the idea they will be running around town with these same tires.

The car is barely DD capable with them - they range from "ok" to "ok, this is scary" in the rain. You're not daily driving in this trim. On the normal tires, this car will be even more pedestrian than it already is.

I not know who you are, I don't even think about you at all.

The great news is we have owners daily driving this car on stock who love it in this forum and outside, and we have Jackie who has taken the car around a track at stock, and it outperformed. So unless you own the car, and have grievances worth mentioning, I'll go with opinions from those who have the car. My 2c.

baron95 · 05-31-2023, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by M2siast

Just the fact that the M2 is being compared to it is a testament of how much performance it has on track. It does what the Cayman GTS does, but carrying a family and Costco groceries, costing a fraction of a GTS. This is the allure of BMW and why we stick to it.

You summed up my reasons for ordering a G87 - and I didn't even realized those were my reasons till I read your comment. Thanks.

AlpineBoost · 05-31-2023, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by CodeSlinger

I did, in the comment you replied to.

baron95 · 05-31-2023, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Squidget

I'm actually quite surprised to be honest. The SS 1LE is a very competent track car. I don't on paper see why the G87 would stake a significant win, they were both on Cup 2s even. I'm a fan of the G87 for sure, but even so... I'd like to see this matchup in a more head-to-head scenario.

And I am very happily hopeful. Since my current street/track car is an SS1LE and my G87M2 is on order. I just don't want to go backwards on lap times - not that it matters much, but it would just piss me off

Squidget · 05-31-2023, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Ctothej

So unless you own the car, and have grievances worth mentioning, I'll go with opinions from those who have the car. My 2c.

Thinking about this, every single journo or influencer who's tracked the G87 has recorded impressive times. Some of them hate everything ELSE about the G87, but they get good track times.

Has anyone actually had a BAD track experience yet? Sure the steering is numb, but it's not hurting lap times. Are there ANY negative track experiences so far? Fuel starve, spun crank hubs, throttle lift problems, etc?

T_U_D · 05-31-2023, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 440i6MT

Pretty easy choice to make if you enjoy driving.

The Porsche.

Ha! You are not wrong. I hate to admit it, but Porsche is becoming the clear choice for enthusiast autos as BMW and BMW M appear to be moving further and further away from The Ultimate Driving Machine.

Edit, the problem with Porsche in regards to the 718 or even the 992 is the nickel and dime of the options and then the final MSRP. Is it really worth that much more over something that is nearly as competent? No, not really, but it tends to stroke our egos and who doesn’t like that?

Squidget · 05-31-2023, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by T_U_D

Ha! You are not wrong. I hate to admit it, but Porsche is becoming the clear choice for enthusiast autos as BMW and BMW M appear to be moving further and further away from The Ultimate Driving machine.

Porsches are great, but their prices are widening faster than the performance is. Ouch.

For the enthusiast who can't afford a $100K weekend-only car, the M still fills a vital role of being a daily driver+ trackable car. Something Porsche has gradually given up on as they go boutique. The days of the cheap early Boxsters are gone.

E63M6_G42M240i · 05-31-2023, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by LCDRJohn

Do they ever explain in the vids how they got an M2 to weigh 3950LBS???

Yes, they did. Thomas was apparently in the car.

murderspice · 05-31-2023, 04:44 PM

Ha, 4 pages already. You people don’t disappoint.

The worst thing about the g87 (other than the looks), are the owners.

baron95 · 05-31-2023, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by T_U_D

Ha! You are not wrong. I hate to admit it, but Porsche is becoming the clear choice for enthusiast autos as BMW and BMW M appear to be moving further and further away from The Ultimate Driving machine.

I love P-cars, specially the Cayman.

But, it's not really that hard to make a 2-seater $120K car perform well on the track and feel sporty on the street.

I am much more impressed by what Chevy did with the SS1LE and BMW did with the G87. Make a 4-seater with a big trunk turn these incredible lap times for $50K and $70K respectively.

Now, *that* is hard.

P.S. and so is having the CTS-V-BlackWing and M5CS 2 ton 5 seaters turn incredible lap times. The M5 time on that tight track is just insane. Respect for that.

Humdizzle · 05-31-2023, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by CatchF22DirtyF30

This is pretty wild, would love to see what driving both cars on the same tires would be like. From the drivers seat of course…

savagegeese did that

they put the g87 m2 and supra on the same tire, both manual, both driven by a professional.

supra came out on top.

CatchF22DirtyF30 · 05-31-2023, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Humdizzle

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Originally Posted by CatchF22DirtyF30

This is pretty wild, would love to see what driving both cars on the same tires would be like. From the drivers seat of course…

savagegeese did that

they put the g87 m2 and supra on the same tire, both manual, both driven by a professional.

supra came out on top.

Honestly that is to be expected as they are the same engine and similar set up, with the supra being more track oriented.

However between the GT4 Cayman and the G87 would be actually interesting to see the outcome, since it is a less calculated comparison.

Ctothej · 05-31-2023, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by murderspice

Prime example…

Just to be clear, you showed up here and fired a shot at G87 owners, which was entirely uncalled for. Fairly easy to see who the actual worse one is..... we can, you might need a mirror.

Squidget · 05-31-2023, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Humdizzle

savagegeese did that

they put the g87 m2 and supra on the same tire, both manual, both driven by a professional.

supra came out on top.

It did! the Supra is a fine car... as long as you don't need back seats, a trunk, ability to see out, or a non-concussed cranium.

I kid. The Supra is truly a great car. If someone only needs two seats and no trunk, I wouldn't recommend the G87. That's not its strength.

JustinHEMI · 05-31-2023, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by murderspice

Ha, 4 pages already. You people don’t disappoint.

The worst thing about the g87 (other than the looks), are the owners.

The irony of this post is not lost on me.

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